Uploaded February 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
Last week both Barack Obama and Donald Trump publicly addressed aliens and UFOs, triggering global reaction and renewed calls for transparency.
But what if disclosure is not what people think it is?
In this in depth conversation, Richard Dolan breaks down Trump’s directive to identify and release UFO files, the role of the intelligence community, compartmentation, private contractors, and why Presidents may not control the deepest secrets.
We examine whether meaningful disclosure is even possible, how secrecy architecture persists beyond administrations, and why disclosure does not automatically mean contact.
If governments confirm non human intelligences are operating here, does that mean they want to talk to us?
According to Dolan, the answer may be no.
This is a sober look at where the UFO issue truly stands in 2026.
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00:00 Disclosure Is Not Contact
00:18 Welcome Back Richard Dolan
01:00 Obama’s Comments and Trump’s Reaction
02:45 Why Obama’s Statement Was “Nothing”
05:10 Trump’s “Classified Information” Comment
06:40 Does Trump Believe UFOs Are Real?
08:10 Tulsi Gabbard, Hegseth and The Directive
09:35 The Department of Energy and Hidden Programs
10:55 Why Presidents Cannot Simply Order Disclosure
12:05 Whistleblowers and Possible Ripple Effects
13:00 Why Trump’s Reaction Matters
15:00 Has Trump Been Briefed?
17:30 The Intelligence Community and the Deep State
20:00 Is This a Distraction From Epstein?
22:00 What Will Actually Come From This?
24:00 Presidents Rotate. The Compartments Persist.
26:00 Contractors, Compartmentation and Need To Know
28:00 Would Gatekeepers Be Worried?
29:00 David Grusch and What Happened Next
30:00 Could This Galvanise More Whistleblowers?
32:00 Is This a Political Diversion?
34:00 Trump Under Pressure and Geopolitics
37:00 Structure vs Personalities in Disclosure
40:00 The “Too Big To Move” Craft Discussion
41:30 The UAP Disclosure Act and What Could Change
45:00 Is There a Long Term Disclosure Plan?
50:00 Would Disclosure Even Matter Anymore?
54:00 A Fractured World and Multipolar Politics
57:00 Pros and Cons of Immediate Disclosure
01:02:00 Disclosure vs Contact Explained
01:06:30 Why Humanity May Not Be “Fixable”
01:10:00 Are Sightings Declining?
01:12:00 Ancient Aliens and Long Term Monitoring
01:15:00 What Happens If They Just Leave?
01:18:00 Final Thoughts
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🎵 Music Credits:
"Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → bitly.ws/kvIK
"Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → bitly.ws/kvIL
Last week both Barack Obama and Donald Trump publicly addressed aliens and UFOs, triggering global reaction and renewed calls for transparency.
But what if disclosure is not what people think it is?
In this in depth conversation, Richard Dolan breaks down Trump’s directive to identify and release UFO files, the role of the intelligence community, compartmentation, private contractors, and why Presidents may not control the deepest secrets.
We examine whether meaningful disclosure is even possible, how secrecy architecture persists beyond administrations, and why disclosure does not automatically mean contact.
If governments confirm non human intelligences are operating here, does that mean they want to talk to us?
According to Dolan, the answer may be no.
This is a sober look at where the UFO issue truly stands in 2026.
richarddolanmembers.com
00:00 Disclosure Is Not Contact
00:18 Welcome Back Richard Dolan
01:00 Obama’s Comments and Trump’s Reaction
02:45 Why Obama’s Statement Was “Nothing”
05:10 Trump’s “Classified Information” Comment
06:40 Does Trump Believe UFOs Are Real?
08:10 Tulsi Gabbard, Hegseth and The Directive
09:35 The Department of Energy and Hidden Programs
10:55 Why Presidents Cannot Simply Order Disclosure
12:05 Whistleblowers and Possible Ripple Effects
13:00 Why Trump’s Reaction Matters
15:00 Has Trump Been Briefed?
17:30 The Intelligence Community and the Deep State
20:00 Is This a Distraction From Epstein?
22:00 What Will Actually Come From This?
24:00 Presidents Rotate. The Compartments Persist.
26:00 Contractors, Compartmentation and Need To Know
28:00 Would Gatekeepers Be Worried?
29:00 David Grusch and What Happened Next
30:00 Could This Galvanise More Whistleblowers?
32:00 Is This a Political Diversion?
34:00 Trump Under Pressure and Geopolitics
37:00 Structure vs Personalities in Disclosure
40:00 The “Too Big To Move” Craft Discussion
41:30 The UAP Disclosure Act and What Could Change
45:00 Is There a Long Term Disclosure Plan?
50:00 Would Disclosure Even Matter Anymore?
54:00 A Fractured World and Multipolar Politics
57:00 Pros and Cons of Immediate Disclosure
01:02:00 Disclosure vs Contact Explained
01:06:30 Why Humanity May Not Be “Fixable”
01:10:00 Are Sightings Declining?
01:12:00 Ancient Aliens and Long Term Monitoring
01:15:00 What Happens If They Just Leave?
01:18:00 Final Thoughts
🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:
🛸 YouTube Memberships: youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join
🛸 Patreon: patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
🛸 Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397
🛸 Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ
🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast
📲 Connect with the show:
Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast
YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com
👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!
Thanks for listening,
Andy
🎵 Music Credits:
"Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → bitly.ws/kvIK
"Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → bitly.ws/kvIL
