Uploaded September 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
Dr Diana Pasulka returns for a huge two-hour conversation about UFOs, AI, religion, death, the Vatican and her new book, The Others.
We discuss why Diana now believes the phenomenon is real, whether UFOs are becoming a new religion, AI as a model for contact with non-human intelligence, and the strange overlap between anomalous experiences, consciousness and the afterlife.
We also get into Peter Thiel and the Antichrist, René Girard, the Vatican archives, possession and abduction experiences, psionics, Disclosure, who gets to speak for humanity, crash retrievals and recovered bodies.
Plus, Diana explains why some of what she has learned genuinely frightens her and why there are things she wishes she had never discovered.
Diana Pasulka on UFOs, AI, religion, death and what may be waiting beyond our current understanding.
Check out Diana's book - https://amzn.eu/d/0f4Z0Zfz
Timestamps
00:00 Crash Retrievals Teaser
00:39 Diana Pasulka Returns
04:27 Who Are “The Others”?
06:23 Can We Label The Phenomenon?
08:33 From Skeptic To Believer
12:56 Why “Tyler” Stays Anonymous
15:50 UFO Factions And Disinformation
22:25 UFOs As A New Religion
28:16 AI As A Model For Contact
33:03 UFOs, Death And The Afterlife
35:06 The Superspectrum Theory
39:21 Entities At The End Of The Bed
42:17 Souls, Consciousness And NHI
43:32 Evidence For After-Death Apparitions
45:23 The Three-Day Soul Tradition
47:26 UFOs And Psionics
48:21 Spiritual Senses And The Risks
51:32 The Noosphere And Human Evolution
54:14 Can Spiritual Senses Be Developed?
57:25 Teilhard, Girard And The Future
01:00:33 AI, Sentience And Apocalypse
01:04:58 Who Controls Artificial Intelligence?
01:10:16 Peter Thiel And The Antichrist
01:13:18 Girard, Thiel And The Scapegoat
01:18:16 Wealth, Power And Independence
01:22:27 Peter Thiel, Surveillance And Ethics
01:23:28 The Antichrist And Algorithms
01:27:09 Can AI Predict The Future?
01:29:36 Inside The Vatican Archives
01:35:10 The Vatican And UFO Secrecy
01:38:58 Demonic Possession And UFOs
01:42:05 Who Controls Disclosure?
01:47:01 Does The Phenomenon Frighten Her?
01:51:04 Is The Truth Too Disturbing?
01:53:10 Crash Retrievals, Bodies And Disclosure
01:54:00 “Have You Learned Things You Wish You Hadn’t?”
01:55:00 NHI, God And Deception
01:56:00 Diana On Joe Rogan
01:57:00 What Diana Wishes She Knew In 2012
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Dr Diana Pasulka returns for a huge two-hour conversation about UFOs, AI, religion, death, the Vatican and her new book, The Others.
We discuss why Diana now believes the phenomenon is real, whether UFOs are becoming a new religion, AI as a model for contact with non-human intelligence, and the strange overlap between anomalous experiences, consciousness and the afterlife.
We also get into Peter Thiel and the Antichrist, René Girard, the Vatican archives, possession and abduction experiences, psionics, Disclosure, who gets to speak for humanity, crash retrievals and recovered bodies.
Plus, Diana explains why some of what she has learned genuinely frightens her and why there are things she wishes she had never discovered.
Diana Pasulka on UFOs, AI, religion, death and what may be waiting beyond our current understanding.
Check out Diana's book - https://amzn.eu/d/0f4Z0Zfz
Timestamps
00:00 Crash Retrievals Teaser
00:39 Diana Pasulka Returns
04:27 Who Are “The Others”?
06:23 Can We Label The Phenomenon?
08:33 From Skeptic To Believer
12:56 Why “Tyler” Stays Anonymous
15:50 UFO Factions And Disinformation
22:25 UFOs As A New Religion
28:16 AI As A Model For Contact
33:03 UFOs, Death And The Afterlife
35:06 The Superspectrum Theory
39:21 Entities At The End Of The Bed
42:17 Souls, Consciousness And NHI
43:32 Evidence For After-Death Apparitions
45:23 The Three-Day Soul Tradition
47:26 UFOs And Psionics
48:21 Spiritual Senses And The Risks
51:32 The Noosphere And Human Evolution
54:14 Can Spiritual Senses Be Developed?
57:25 Teilhard, Girard And The Future
01:00:33 AI, Sentience And Apocalypse
01:04:58 Who Controls Artificial Intelligence?
01:10:16 Peter Thiel And The Antichrist
01:13:18 Girard, Thiel And The Scapegoat
01:18:16 Wealth, Power And Independence
01:22:27 Peter Thiel, Surveillance And Ethics
01:23:28 The Antichrist And Algorithms
01:27:09 Can AI Predict The Future?
01:29:36 Inside The Vatican Archives
01:35:10 The Vatican And UFO Secrecy
01:38:58 Demonic Possession And UFOs
01:42:05 Who Controls Disclosure?
01:47:01 Does The Phenomenon Frighten Her?
01:51:04 Is The Truth Too Disturbing?
01:53:10 Crash Retrievals, Bodies And Disclosure
01:54:00 “Have You Learned Things You Wish You Hadn’t?”
01:55:00 NHI, God And Deception
01:56:00 Diana On Joe Rogan
01:57:00 What Diana Wishes She Knew In 2012
🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:
🛸 YouTube Memberships: / @thatufopodcast
🛸 Patreon: / thatufopodcast
🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast...
🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ...
🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOP...
📲 Connect with the show:
Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast
YouTube: / thatufopodcast
Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com
👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!
Thanks for listening,
Andy
