Request by David USA to Discuss the Difference Between y-T and y-J @JungleJargon
Request by David USA to Discuss the Difference Between y-T and y-J  @JungleJargon
Uploaded July 2025 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Y-DNA Haplotree Rooted at IJ (Arphaxad)

Root: IJ (Arphaxad, Shem)





Defining SNPs: M429, M168, M89 (~43,000 years).



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89 (with F, K; M168 with E, D, C).



Unique SNPs: M429.



Notes: Represents Semitic peoples (Genesis 10:22, Arphaxad). All haplogroups descend from IJ, branching near-contemporaneously by birth order. C (Nimrod) is not a grandson of Noah.

Branch 1: Shem’s Lineage (Semitic)





J (M304):





Unique SNPs: M304.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89.



Descendants:





I (M170): Includes I1 (Dan, Scandinavia), I2 (Asher, Balkans/Central Europe).





Unique SNPs: M170.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89, M304.



J1 (M267): Arabs, Hebrews.



J2 (M172): Neolithic Middle East/South Asia.



Notes: I as J’s subclade aligns with Dan, Asher as Israelite tribes.



H (M69, Elam):





Unique SNPs: M69.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89.



Notes: South Asia (e.g., Romani), Elam (Genesis 10:22).



G (M201, Asshur):





Unique SNPs: M201.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89.



Notes: Caucasus/Europe, Asshur (Genesis 10:22).



F (F-SNP1, Aram and Lud):





Unique SNPs: F-SNP1 (or M213, hypothetical).



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89.



Descendants:





F1–F5 (Aram): Hypothetical subclades, Middle East (Genesis 10:22).



F-undefined (Lud): Middle East.



K (M9, Tubal): See below.

Branch 2: Japheth’s Lineage (Eurasian, Birth Order: K → L → NO → P → Q → R → T)





K (M9, Tubal):





Unique SNPs: M526 (secondary, as M9 is shared).



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89, M9.



Descendants:





L (M20, Tiras): South Asia.





Unique SNPs: M20.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89, M9.



M (M4): Melanesia.





Unique SNPs: M4.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89, M9.



NO (M214, Magog):





Unique SNPs: M214.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89, M9.



Descendants:





N (M231): Northern Eurasia.





Unique SNPs: M231.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89, M9, M214.



O (M175): East Asia.





Unique SNPs: M175.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89, M9, M214.



P (M45, Meshech):





Unique SNPs: M45.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89, M9.



Descendants:





Q (M242, Madai): Central Asia, Native Americans.





Unique SNPs: M242.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89, M9, M45.



R (M207, Gomer):





Unique SNPs: M207.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89, M9, M45.



Descendants: R1a (Ashkenaz), R1b (Riphath), R2 (Togarmah).



S (M230): Melanesia.





Unique SNPs: M230.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89, M9.



T (M184, Javan): Horn of Africa/South Asia.





Unique SNPs: M184.



Shared SNPs: M429, M168, M89, M9.



Notes: Eurasian populations (Genesis 10:2–5, Japheth’s sons). M9 exclusive to Japheth’s descendants.

Branch 3: Ham’s Lineage (African/Out-of-Africa, Birth Order: E → D → B → A)





Ham’s Sons (Brothers):





E (M96, Mizraim):





Unique SNPs: M96.



Shared SNPs: M168.



Notes: Africa, North Africa (Genesis 10:6). Lacks M89, M9.



D (M174, Canaan):





Unique SNPs: M174.



Shared SNPs: M168.



Notes: East Asia/Andaman. Lacks M89, M9.



B (M60, Cush):





Unique SNPs: M60.



Shared SNPs: None (lacks M168).



Descendants:





C (M130, Nimrod): Asia/Oceania, son of Cush, not a grandson of Noah.





Unique SNPs: M130.



Shared SNPs: M60 (from B), M168.



Notes: Africa, with Nimrod’s migration to Mesopotamia. Lacks M89, M9; C carries M168.



A (M91, Phut):





Unique SNPs: M91.



Shared SNPs: None (lacks M168).



Notes: Africa (e.g., Khoisan, Nilotic). Lacks M168, M89, M9.

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