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Why did goths change the way they interacted with outsiders after Columbine, why was fashion of the time starkly different from today, why was gatekeeping part of the scene in the first place, and why weren’t goths allowed to smile before 2010. All this and more as we walk through the story of goth in the late 90’s and early 2000’s with a panel of goths who lived through it.
Our guests this month are
Jessie Meowser: instagram.com/jessiemeowser
Jessica: instagram.com/ultramarinedream
Bruce Lord: idieyoudie.com
If you enjoy the show, please support us on Patreon!
patreon.com/cemeteryconfessions
Intro 00:00
90's 3:48
Club Scene 11:20
Life in the 2000's 44:25
Columbine and 9/11 1:20:30
Goth Was Just Different 1:37:00
Vampires: 2:05:00
Emo vs. Goth 2:15:40
Find More 2:30:00
Fashion 2:34:08
Mallgoth 2:50:00
References:
-90’s goth youtube playlist
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfxiUviXhzWXKj4ydWAGfmR8OU6PopUDf
-90’s goth youtube playlist
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiB15A1H5gZ-0gzG2C9c_9R13DByYSG7z
-small town goth
youtu.be/z9i3cWbuUVI?si=zH6AYHYhUqDqzqde
-simronan
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?h=AT3GsagmTg5LNova8QzeAAg0zFWURU3kYV_k9ak2VW1oZAYouyc-AtS2Ru_qobyLL9xQEre_-wc7USfLVgOBrUPSWv7RfJR9C7MsEpYd--CCMNwp0bzGVMKKvv0fIrgkw93ui-zVkTF0K1kVlJo&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1fMtR3fhPUg%26pp%3DygUQYWZyYWlkIG9mIHN3b3Jkcw%253D%253D%26fbclid%3DIwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2kKA4QqYxI0ndR4jZLVtXrVzOMyXHSJk1pk3l_szJRammwWQzqq3Liv0M_aem_AcVJnzoxTBM4R78VWjz5-ASLgCousoylAsn9YJ0hbFcHiqoEXSRNY5WpP2Yd_mo_klfl5v6ye4Y7ovEGzHEEI9G7
Why did goths change the way they interacted with outsiders after Columbine, why was fashion of the time starkly different from today, why was gatekeeping part of the scene in the first place, and why weren’t goths allowed to smile before 2010. All this and more as we walk through the story of goth in the late 90’s and early 2000’s with a panel of goths who lived through it.
Our guests this month are
Jessie Meowser: instagram.com/jessiemeowser
Jessica: instagram.com/ultramarinedream
Bruce Lord: idieyoudie.com
If you enjoy the show, please support us on Patreon!
patreon.com/cemeteryconfessions
Intro 00:00
90's 3:48
Club Scene 11:20
Life in the 2000's 44:25
Columbine and 9/11 1:20:30
Goth Was Just Different 1:37:00
Vampires: 2:05:00
Emo vs. Goth 2:15:40
Find More 2:30:00
Fashion 2:34:08
Mallgoth 2:50:00
References:
-90’s goth youtube playlist
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfxiUviXhzWXKj4ydWAGfmR8OU6PopUDf
-90’s goth youtube playlist
youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiB15A1H5gZ-0gzG2C9c_9R13DByYSG7z
-small town goth
youtu.be/z9i3cWbuUVI?si=zH6AYHYhUqDqzqde
-simronan
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?h=AT3GsagmTg5LNova8QzeAAg0zFWURU3kYV_k9ak2VW1oZAYouyc-AtS2Ru_qobyLL9xQEre_-wc7USfLVgOBrUPSWv7RfJR9C7MsEpYd--CCMNwp0bzGVMKKvv0fIrgkw93ui-zVkTF0K1kVlJo&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1fMtR3fhPUg%26pp%3DygUQYWZyYWlkIG9mIHN3b3Jkcw%253D%253D%26fbclid%3DIwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR2kKA4QqYxI0ndR4jZLVtXrVzOMyXHSJk1pk3l_szJRammwWQzqq3Liv0M_aem_AcVJnzoxTBM4R78VWjz5-ASLgCousoylAsn9YJ0hbFcHiqoEXSRNY5WpP2Yd_mo_klfl5v6ye4Y7ovEGzHEEI9G7




![What is Subculture | What is Goth | Why Does it Matter
Paul Hodkinsons 4 indicators of subcultural substance:
Consistent distinctiveness, in that the group shares a consistency of style, tastes, and values, that are distinct from other groups. (accounting for slight variation between individuals)
Identity, in that participants have a clear and sustained subjective sense of group identity a sense of like-mindedness with other goths regardless of geographic location, and [the subculture is] often regarded as the single most important part of their identity.
Commitment, in that participation in the subculture accounts for a considerable proportion of free time, friendship patterns, shopping routes, collections of commodities, going out habits and even internet use.
Autonomy, in that while still part of society and the politico-economic system of that country, a good proportion of the productive or organizational activities which underpin it (the subculture) are liable to be undertaken by and for enthusiasts.
Goth as a subculture is marked by an emphasis on a distinct, structured homology of culture, whose ideologies, material objects, and rituals are shared through substantive interaction, common identity, and shared meaning, rather than as raw materials to be harvested by ephemeral, multi-affiliated post subculturalists.
My 4 markers of a goth identity:
1. An appreciation of goth music
2. Aesthetic deviance that aligns with the sartorial idioms of goth.
3. Embracing darkness (manifest as an appreciation of the macabre, Gothic literature, finding beauty in the uncanny and abnormal, etc)
4. An active pursuit of incorporating these ideologies, material objects, and rituals into substantive, communal interaction. (lifestyle curation)
References:
Derek Sweets Paper: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1362/026725799785045824
Paul Hodkinsons Book: https://www.amazon.com/Goth-Identity-Style-Subculture-Culture/dp/185973605X
Paul Hodkinson on post-subcutlturalists: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13676261.2015.1098778?journalCode=cjys20
Nephilim Incorruptus Video: https://youtu.be/9-ayL4fNnBU
Catherine Spooner on The Gothic as a Revivalist movement: https://www.amazon.com/Contemporary-Gothic-Focus-Issues-FOCI/dp/1861893019
Lexicography and the evolution of language: http://bigthink.com/think-again-podcast/lair-of-the-level-10-word-mage-nil-kory-stamper-nil-think-again-a-big-think-podcast
Ageing in Spectacular Youth Culture (Cemetery Confessions): http://www.thebelfry.rip/blog/2016/5/28/aging-in-youth-culture-cemetery-confessions
Ageing in Spectacular Youth Culture (book): https://www.amazon.com/Ageing-Youth-Cultures-Music-Identity/dp/1847888356 What is Subculture | What is Goth | Why Does it Matter](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/N1niXgARskY/mqdefault.jpg)





