Uploaded March 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
This episode of Transition Drill Podcast explores the path from uncertain beginnings to elite service for veterans and first responders navigating leadership, purpose, and life after high-intensity careers.
You’ll hear retired Navy SEAL David Swarts on becoming a SEAL during the height of the Global War on Terror and what it takes to grow from a young operator into a leader responsible for others.
David Swarts didn’t grow up with a clear plan. Raised near Cleveland, Ohio, he spent most of his early years focused on cars, restaurant work, and figuring out life as he went. After watching the direction many of his friends were heading, he made a sudden decision that would change everything. He joined the Navy.
Dave initially served as an aircraft mechanic attached to a carrier air wing. But the goal that stayed in the back of his mind was always the same. He wanted to become a SEAL. After completing his initial commitment, he fought through the long process of screening, training, and eventually entering BUD/S in 2003 during the height of wartime deployments.
In this conversation, Dave walks through the realities of SEAL training, setbacks during second phase, and the mental fight required to stay in the pipeline. He later completed the Special Forces medic course before reporting to SEAL Team 10.
From there the pace accelerated. Deployments to Iraq during the most active years of the war. Leadership roles inside a SEAL platoon. The shift from being a young operator to mentoring the next generation of team guys.
Dave also talks openly about the personal side of the career. Becoming a father while deploying. The pressures of leadership in combat units. And the challenges that came when operations overseas led to investigations and accusations that led to a Captain's Mast and later a Court Martial, which affected his career and his life.
This episode is a candid look at service, growth, leadership, and the lessons learned from life inside the SEAL teams.
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This episode of Transition Drill Podcast explores the path from uncertain beginnings to elite service for veterans and first responders navigating leadership, purpose, and life after high-intensity careers.
You’ll hear retired Navy SEAL David Swarts on becoming a SEAL during the height of the Global War on Terror and what it takes to grow from a young operator into a leader responsible for others.
David Swarts didn’t grow up with a clear plan. Raised near Cleveland, Ohio, he spent most of his early years focused on cars, restaurant work, and figuring out life as he went. After watching the direction many of his friends were heading, he made a sudden decision that would change everything. He joined the Navy.
Dave initially served as an aircraft mechanic attached to a carrier air wing. But the goal that stayed in the back of his mind was always the same. He wanted to become a SEAL. After completing his initial commitment, he fought through the long process of screening, training, and eventually entering BUD/S in 2003 during the height of wartime deployments.
In this conversation, Dave walks through the realities of SEAL training, setbacks during second phase, and the mental fight required to stay in the pipeline. He later completed the Special Forces medic course before reporting to SEAL Team 10.
From there the pace accelerated. Deployments to Iraq during the most active years of the war. Leadership roles inside a SEAL platoon. The shift from being a young operator to mentoring the next generation of team guys.
Dave also talks openly about the personal side of the career. Becoming a father while deploying. The pressures of leadership in combat units. And the challenges that came when operations overseas led to investigations and accusations that led to a Captain's Mast and later a Court Martial, which affected his career and his life.
This episode is a candid look at service, growth, leadership, and the lessons learned from life inside the SEAL teams.
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![Navy Divers Career Ending Injury: Identity Loss and Civilian Transition Struggle. Tommy McConnell
Episode 228 of Transition Drill Podcast explores identity loss, career-ending injury, and post-service reinvention for Navy Divers and military professionals navigating an unexpected transition. You’ll hear Tommy McConnell on the psychological crash that followed his 2018 diving injury, and what it actually took to rebuild purpose, competence, and direction after the uniform came off.
Tommy’s story begins well before the injury. He walks through his decision to join the Navy, shipping to boot camp in May, 2011, and earning his place in the Navy Diver community. He explains the pride that came with mastering a demanding craft and the quiet confidence built through repetition, competence, and trust in teammates. That foundation carried him into real-world operations, including the high-profile F/A-18 recovery mission in the Persian Gulf, where technical skill and discipline mattered more than recognition.
In 2018, everything changed. A career-ending diving injury shut the door on Navy diving and forced a transition he wasn’t mentally prepared for. Tommy shares his blunt story of what came next. He describes a bad period after leaving the Navy marked by depression, loss of identity, and a sense that the skills that once defined him no longer had a place. Like many veterans and first responders, he struggled with the silence that follows service, when structure disappears and no one is telling you where you belong next.
What makes this conversation valuable is how specific Tommy is about climbing out of that hole. He didn’t reinvent himself from scratch. He leveraged what he already knew. Drawing on his dive background, he entered the Unmanned Underwater Vehicle industry, first as a contractor operating UUV systems, then progressing into a role with a San Diego-based company where he now trains and mentors other UUV operators. The work restored competence, responsibility, and a sense of contribution.
At the same time, Tommy revisited something he had put on hold while on active duty. He resurrected his clothing brand, 15 Fathoms, not as a hobby but as a deliberate reclaiming of ownership and identity outside the Navy.
This episode speaks directly to veterans and first responders facing forced transitions, medical retirements, or identity loss after service. Tommy’s experience shows that recovery isn’t about finding something entirely new. It’s about reconnecting with what you already know, taking responsibility for your next chapter, and rebuilding purpose one decision at a time.
The best podcast for military veterans, police officers, firefighters, and first responders preparing for veteran transition and life after service. Helping you plan and implement strategies to prepare for your transition into civilian life. Follow the show and share it with another veteran or first responder who would enjoy this.
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CHAPTERS
[0:00:00] Intro – When it got dark
[0:05:05] Therapy lens vs. the worst year
[0:08:14] Slidell, Louisiana roots, “black sheep”
[0:10:41] Water kid to Navy diving pull
[0:13:41] A tense home and a changing dad
[0:18:21] DUI, restaurants, and limits
[0:21:50] Katrina aftermath and hard lessons
[0:24:28] New York, $2,300, and no plan
[0:34:47] First formation, “I’m in the military”
[0:36:40] Almost dropped, finding footing
[0:40:35] Telling his wife, I’m leaving again
[0:43:10] F18 Recovery in the Gulf
[0:56:34] Hawaii duty, loving the work
[0:57:44] Veterans Day bar talk, stay in
[1:01:14] The dive that derailed everything
[1:02:22] Four hours grinding, max bottom time
[1:03:26] “World shaking,” self neuro exam
[1:10:44] Why he didn’t demand the chamber
[1:13:02] “You have an aneurysm,” Googling it
[1:16:20] Overloading life, paying for it
[1:57:38] Closing advice: start with what remains
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