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In episode 249 of the Transition Drill Podcast, explore military transition, long-term service, and purpose after retirement for veterans and first responders navigating life beyond the uniform. You’ll hear retired Army Colonel Michael “Sully” Sullivan on leadership, identity, Special Forces service, and what it takes to build a meaningful second mission after a 30-year military career.
Michael “Sully” Sullivan grew up in Yakima, Washington, surrounded by a family legacy of military service that stretched from World War I through Vietnam. His father served as an infantry officer in Vietnam before becoming a longtime prosecuting attorney, and those experiences quietly shaped Sully’s view of service long before he ever put on a uniform himself. Originally headed toward law school, Sully attended Claremont McKenna College to play football and pursue a more traditional civilian path. But an unexpected ROTC opportunity changed everything and sent him into the Army with what he thought would only be a four-year commitment.
Instead, Sully found purpose in leadership, team culture, and the challenge of military life. He shares stories from his early years as a field artillery officer, meeting his wife just weeks after they were introduced, building a family while serving overseas, and eventually taking the difficult leap into the Special Forces community. The episode walks through his path to becoming a Green Beret, the pressure and uncertainty of Special Forces selection, and what it was like entering that world just as 9/11 changed the trajectory of the military forever.
But this conversation isn’t only about military service. Sully speaks candidly about marriage during a 30-year Army career, raising children while constantly moving, financial mistakes, mentorship, and the reality that senior leaders often transition feeling isolated despite decades of experience. He also talks openly about chasing promotion to general officer, accepting when that path didn’t happen, and learning how to move forward without bitterness or regret.
Today, Sully serves as the Executive Director of Team Red, White & Blue, helping veterans reconnect to purpose, health, and community after service. His transition story is rooted in preparation, relationships, humility, and trusting the people who truly know you. This episode is a deep conversation about identity, leadership, family, service, and finding a new mission after the military.
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In episode 249 of the Transition Drill Podcast, explore military transition, long-term service, and purpose after retirement for veterans and first responders navigating life beyond the uniform. You’ll hear retired Army Colonel Michael “Sully” Sullivan on leadership, identity, Special Forces service, and what it takes to build a meaningful second mission after a 30-year military career.
Michael “Sully” Sullivan grew up in Yakima, Washington, surrounded by a family legacy of military service that stretched from World War I through Vietnam. His father served as an infantry officer in Vietnam before becoming a longtime prosecuting attorney, and those experiences quietly shaped Sully’s view of service long before he ever put on a uniform himself. Originally headed toward law school, Sully attended Claremont McKenna College to play football and pursue a more traditional civilian path. But an unexpected ROTC opportunity changed everything and sent him into the Army with what he thought would only be a four-year commitment.
Instead, Sully found purpose in leadership, team culture, and the challenge of military life. He shares stories from his early years as a field artillery officer, meeting his wife just weeks after they were introduced, building a family while serving overseas, and eventually taking the difficult leap into the Special Forces community. The episode walks through his path to becoming a Green Beret, the pressure and uncertainty of Special Forces selection, and what it was like entering that world just as 9/11 changed the trajectory of the military forever.
But this conversation isn’t only about military service. Sully speaks candidly about marriage during a 30-year Army career, raising children while constantly moving, financial mistakes, mentorship, and the reality that senior leaders often transition feeling isolated despite decades of experience. He also talks openly about chasing promotion to general officer, accepting when that path didn’t happen, and learning how to move forward without bitterness or regret.
Today, Sully serves as the Executive Director of Team Red, White & Blue, helping veterans reconnect to purpose, health, and community after service. His transition story is rooted in preparation, relationships, humility, and trusting the people who truly know you. This episode is a deep conversation about identity, leadership, family, service, and finding a new mission after the military.
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Blue Line Roasting: Premium, law-enforcement-owned coffee roasted to fuel the shift. A portion of every order directly supports law enforcement families facing line-of-duty injury or loss. Save 10% at bluelineroasting.com with promo code Transition10
Frontline Optics: Premium eyewear founded by a firefighter and built to withstand the job. Every single purchase helps support the First Responders Children’s Foundation, serving families who’ve paid the ultimate price. Save 10% off your pair at frontlineoptics.com using promo code Transition10
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![Navy Divers Career Ending Injury: Identity Loss and Civilian Transition Struggle. Tommy McConnell
Episode 228 of Transition Drill Podcast explores identity loss, career-ending injury, and post-service reinvention for Navy Divers and military professionals navigating an unexpected transition. You’ll hear Tommy McConnell on the psychological crash that followed his 2018 diving injury, and what it actually took to rebuild purpose, competence, and direction after the uniform came off.
Tommy’s story begins well before the injury. He walks through his decision to join the Navy, shipping to boot camp in May, 2011, and earning his place in the Navy Diver community. He explains the pride that came with mastering a demanding craft and the quiet confidence built through repetition, competence, and trust in teammates. That foundation carried him into real-world operations, including the high-profile F/A-18 recovery mission in the Persian Gulf, where technical skill and discipline mattered more than recognition.
In 2018, everything changed. A career-ending diving injury shut the door on Navy diving and forced a transition he wasn’t mentally prepared for. Tommy shares his blunt story of what came next. He describes a bad period after leaving the Navy marked by depression, loss of identity, and a sense that the skills that once defined him no longer had a place. Like many veterans and first responders, he struggled with the silence that follows service, when structure disappears and no one is telling you where you belong next.
What makes this conversation valuable is how specific Tommy is about climbing out of that hole. He didn’t reinvent himself from scratch. He leveraged what he already knew. Drawing on his dive background, he entered the Unmanned Underwater Vehicle industry, first as a contractor operating UUV systems, then progressing into a role with a San Diego-based company where he now trains and mentors other UUV operators. The work restored competence, responsibility, and a sense of contribution.
At the same time, Tommy revisited something he had put on hold while on active duty. He resurrected his clothing brand, 15 Fathoms, not as a hobby but as a deliberate reclaiming of ownership and identity outside the Navy.
This episode speaks directly to veterans and first responders facing forced transitions, medical retirements, or identity loss after service. Tommy’s experience shows that recovery isn’t about finding something entirely new. It’s about reconnecting with what you already know, taking responsibility for your next chapter, and rebuilding purpose one decision at a time.
The best podcast for military veterans, police officers, firefighters, and first responders preparing for veteran transition and life after service. Helping you plan and implement strategies to prepare for your transition into civilian life. Follow the show and share it with another veteran or first responder who would enjoy this.
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CHAPTERS
[0:00:00] Intro – When it got dark
[0:05:05] Therapy lens vs. the worst year
[0:08:14] Slidell, Louisiana roots, “black sheep”
[0:10:41] Water kid to Navy diving pull
[0:13:41] A tense home and a changing dad
[0:18:21] DUI, restaurants, and limits
[0:21:50] Katrina aftermath and hard lessons
[0:24:28] New York, $2,300, and no plan
[0:34:47] First formation, “I’m in the military”
[0:36:40] Almost dropped, finding footing
[0:40:35] Telling his wife, I’m leaving again
[0:43:10] F18 Recovery in the Gulf
[0:56:34] Hawaii duty, loving the work
[0:57:44] Veterans Day bar talk, stay in
[1:01:14] The dive that derailed everything
[1:02:22] Four hours grinding, max bottom time
[1:03:26] “World shaking,” self neuro exam
[1:10:44] Why he didn’t demand the chamber
[1:13:02] “You have an aneurysm,” Googling it
[1:16:20] Overloading life, paying for it
[1:57:38] Closing advice: start with what remains
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Promo Code: TRANSITION15
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Promocode: Transition10
Frontline Optics
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