Uploaded January 2025 | Updated September 2026, 38 minutes ago
In this episode, Oskar welcomes Chloé Sondervorst, a radio producer at CBC/Radio-Canada and digital media creator, to discuss the intersection of AI, storytelling, and public media. Chloé shares her journey from studying philosophy and East Asian studies to becoming a leading voice on technology and its impact on society, with a focus on younger audiences.
We explore:
☕️ How AI can enhance journalism and storytelling
☕️ The balance between human creativity and AI tools
☕️ Why public media must evolve to serve diverse, modern audiences
☕️ The role of philosophy in understanding technological change
☕️ How creativity flourishes when we embrace imperfection
Chloé also shares her thoughts on AI’s potential to create community and meaningful experiences, her experiments with TikTok, and the challenges of fostering curiosity in a media landscape that’s constantly shifting.
If you’re fascinated by the crossroads of technology, creativity, and media—or curious about how to navigate the new age of AI-driven storytelling—this episode is for you. And to check out Chloé's work, find her under Chloé Sondervorst on all platforns (Tiktok, Insta, Linkedin)!
Key Moments:
0:00 - 1:04: Introduction
• Oskar introduces the show and the guest, Chloé Sondervorst.
• Overview of Chloé’s background in media and passion for storytelling, digital culture, and AI.
04:29: Chloé’s Career Path
• Chloé discusses her background in philosophy, love for travel, and her entry into media and journalism.
• Exploration of how technology enables the discovery of new perspectives and connections.
06:53 Philosophy’s Influence on Storytelling
• Integration of philosophical thinking into journalism and media production.
• Socratic questioning as a foundation for journalistic curiosity.
09:55 Chloé’s Early Journalism Career
• Transition from philosophy to journalism.
• Early passion for audio storytelling and radio production during her student days.
13:55 Shifting to Program Creation
• Chloé’s move from news journalism to creating original programs at CBC/Radio-Canada.
• Focus on bringing diverse voices and perspectives into public media.
17:50 Balancing Creativity and Productivity
• Insights into how Chloé stays creative and organizes her work.
• Importance of intuition, maintaining a mission-driven focus, and fostering team collaboration.
19:15 Making Environmental Journalism Engaging
• Overview of Chloé’s work on CBC/Radio-Canada’s environmental program Feu vert.
• Using solution journalism to tackle heavy topics like climate change.
26:00 First Encounters with AI
• Chloé’s early exposure to technology and AI.
• Reflections on generative AI tools like ChatGPT and their societal impact.
30:29 Audience Reactions to AI
• Categorizing public reactions to AI, from curiosity to skepticism.
• How ChatGPT’s release sparked widespread interest in AI.
35:50 AI’s Role in Media and Society
• Addressing societal anxieties about AI.
• The polarization between AI developers, the public, and researchers.
40:00 AI and the Younger Generation
• Workshops and initiatives to promote AI literacy among teenagers.
• Encouraging nuanced discussions about AI’s role in culture and creativity.
46:00 AI in Creative Industries
• Examples of AI’s use in music, visual arts, and film.
• Highlighting ethical concerns and the potential of AI as a creative tool.
52:03: AI in Journalism
• Opportunities and challenges of integrating AI into journalism.
• Personalized news formats, ethical AI applications, and building trust with audiences.
55:07 Future of Storytelling and AI
• Exploring innovative storytelling formats enabled by AI, such as fractal stories and liquid content.
• Balancing personalization with the need for shared public narratives.
1:00:00 Hopes for the future
• Chloé’s vision of an imperfect but collaborative future.
• Encouraging experimentation and embracing mistakes as part of progress.
1:02:21 Advice for Aspiring Creatives
• Chloé advises young creatives to experiment and prioritize meaningful storytelling over metrics.
• The importance of finding one’s unique path.
1:03:37 Closing Remarks
• Final reflections on the conversation.
• Links to Chloé’s social media and where to follow her work.
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In this episode, Oskar welcomes Chloé Sondervorst, a radio producer at CBC/Radio-Canada and digital media creator, to discuss the intersection of AI, storytelling, and public media. Chloé shares her journey from studying philosophy and East Asian studies to becoming a leading voice on technology and its impact on society, with a focus on younger audiences.
We explore:
☕️ How AI can enhance journalism and storytelling
☕️ The balance between human creativity and AI tools
☕️ Why public media must evolve to serve diverse, modern audiences
☕️ The role of philosophy in understanding technological change
☕️ How creativity flourishes when we embrace imperfection
Chloé also shares her thoughts on AI’s potential to create community and meaningful experiences, her experiments with TikTok, and the challenges of fostering curiosity in a media landscape that’s constantly shifting.
If you’re fascinated by the crossroads of technology, creativity, and media—or curious about how to navigate the new age of AI-driven storytelling—this episode is for you. And to check out Chloé's work, find her under Chloé Sondervorst on all platforns (Tiktok, Insta, Linkedin)!
Key Moments:
0:00 - 1:04: Introduction
• Oskar introduces the show and the guest, Chloé Sondervorst.
• Overview of Chloé’s background in media and passion for storytelling, digital culture, and AI.
04:29: Chloé’s Career Path
• Chloé discusses her background in philosophy, love for travel, and her entry into media and journalism.
• Exploration of how technology enables the discovery of new perspectives and connections.
06:53 Philosophy’s Influence on Storytelling
• Integration of philosophical thinking into journalism and media production.
• Socratic questioning as a foundation for journalistic curiosity.
09:55 Chloé’s Early Journalism Career
• Transition from philosophy to journalism.
• Early passion for audio storytelling and radio production during her student days.
13:55 Shifting to Program Creation
• Chloé’s move from news journalism to creating original programs at CBC/Radio-Canada.
• Focus on bringing diverse voices and perspectives into public media.
17:50 Balancing Creativity and Productivity
• Insights into how Chloé stays creative and organizes her work.
• Importance of intuition, maintaining a mission-driven focus, and fostering team collaboration.
19:15 Making Environmental Journalism Engaging
• Overview of Chloé’s work on CBC/Radio-Canada’s environmental program Feu vert.
• Using solution journalism to tackle heavy topics like climate change.
26:00 First Encounters with AI
• Chloé’s early exposure to technology and AI.
• Reflections on generative AI tools like ChatGPT and their societal impact.
30:29 Audience Reactions to AI
• Categorizing public reactions to AI, from curiosity to skepticism.
• How ChatGPT’s release sparked widespread interest in AI.
35:50 AI’s Role in Media and Society
• Addressing societal anxieties about AI.
• The polarization between AI developers, the public, and researchers.
40:00 AI and the Younger Generation
• Workshops and initiatives to promote AI literacy among teenagers.
• Encouraging nuanced discussions about AI’s role in culture and creativity.
46:00 AI in Creative Industries
• Examples of AI’s use in music, visual arts, and film.
• Highlighting ethical concerns and the potential of AI as a creative tool.
52:03: AI in Journalism
• Opportunities and challenges of integrating AI into journalism.
• Personalized news formats, ethical AI applications, and building trust with audiences.
55:07 Future of Storytelling and AI
• Exploring innovative storytelling formats enabled by AI, such as fractal stories and liquid content.
• Balancing personalization with the need for shared public narratives.
1:00:00 Hopes for the future
• Chloé’s vision of an imperfect but collaborative future.
• Encouraging experimentation and embracing mistakes as part of progress.
1:02:21 Advice for Aspiring Creatives
• Chloé advises young creatives to experiment and prioritize meaningful storytelling over metrics.
• The importance of finding one’s unique path.
1:03:37 Closing Remarks
• Final reflections on the conversation.
• Links to Chloé’s social media and where to follow her work.
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18:40 Virtual production & modern media strategy
21:00 Authenticity, storytelling, and why Up still makes him cry
24:00 Star Wars, improv, and rediscovering play
28:30 Practical advice for marketers adopting AI
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