Uploaded September 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 minutes ago
On this week's episode of Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel: A married couple arrives at Esther’s office hoping to recover from a devastating rupture with his mother after the birth of their first child. But immediately their session reveals a longer, more complex history of betrayal within their relationship and within his larger family system. Having a child, and experiencing an absolute break from his abusive mother, finally disrupted the toxic dynamics between the couple. Now, as they revisit the moments when she felt most abandoned by him, Esther helps them explore the differences between shame and accountability, the legacy of childhood family systems, and what it takes to truly repair the pain you've caused someone you love.
Chapters
00:00 What Happens After Betrayal?
01:24 Can Love Survive Another Betrayal?
03:51 Why Does He Keep Crossing the Line?
05:19 When Does Betrayal Become the Rupture?
07:28 What’s the Difference Between Shame and Guilt?
08:29 Why Did She Start Doubting Herself?
13:29 When You Feel You Can’t Go On
15:41 Can Shame Become Accountability?
21:11 What Did He Learn From His Mother?
25:52 Why Did the Postpartum Moment Change Everything?
28:59 What Happens When You Don’t Know What You Feel?
30:20 How Can Love and Betrayal Coexist?
31:30 What Would Accountability Actually Sound Like?
33:10 Can He Finally Say What He Did to Her?
35:56 What Happens When Her Anger Finally Breaks Through?
36:40 Why Is She Feeling It for Both of Them?
38:06 What Happens When Family Becomes Part of the Betrayal?
40:18 Where Did His Anger Go?
42:25 What Do Feelings Require Us to Do?
47:11 Can There Be Room for Grief?
48:35 What Happens When a Relationship Lives in Secret?
50:02 Can They Still Cross the Bridge?
About Where Should We Begin?:
Every Monday morning, step into the office of iconic psychotherapist Esther Perel and listen in as real people in search of insight bare the raw, intimate, and profound details of their stories. From breakups and open relationships to workplace conflicts and fractures in the family, it’s a place to hear our own stories reflected in the lives of others.
About Esther Perel:
Psychotherapist, relationship expert, and New York Times bestselling author Esther Perel is recognized as one of today’s most insightful and original voices on modern relationships. Fluent in nine languages, she helms a therapy practice in New York City and serves as an organizational consultant for Fortune 500 companies around the world. Her celebrated TED Talks have garnered more than 40 million views and her bestselling books, Mating in Captivity and The State of Affairs, are global phenomena translated into more than 30 languages. Esther is also the host of the hit podcast Where Should We Begin? which is available on Apple Podcasts. Learn more at EstherPerel.com or by subscribing to her Substack Entre Nous for bonus content.
On this week's episode of Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel: A married couple arrives at Esther’s office hoping to recover from a devastating rupture with his mother after the birth of their first child. But immediately their session reveals a longer, more complex history of betrayal within their relationship and within his larger family system. Having a child, and experiencing an absolute break from his abusive mother, finally disrupted the toxic dynamics between the couple. Now, as they revisit the moments when she felt most abandoned by him, Esther helps them explore the differences between shame and accountability, the legacy of childhood family systems, and what it takes to truly repair the pain you've caused someone you love.
Chapters
00:00 What Happens After Betrayal?
01:24 Can Love Survive Another Betrayal?
03:51 Why Does He Keep Crossing the Line?
05:19 When Does Betrayal Become the Rupture?
07:28 What’s the Difference Between Shame and Guilt?
08:29 Why Did She Start Doubting Herself?
13:29 When You Feel You Can’t Go On
15:41 Can Shame Become Accountability?
21:11 What Did He Learn From His Mother?
25:52 Why Did the Postpartum Moment Change Everything?
28:59 What Happens When You Don’t Know What You Feel?
30:20 How Can Love and Betrayal Coexist?
31:30 What Would Accountability Actually Sound Like?
33:10 Can He Finally Say What He Did to Her?
35:56 What Happens When Her Anger Finally Breaks Through?
36:40 Why Is She Feeling It for Both of Them?
38:06 What Happens When Family Becomes Part of the Betrayal?
40:18 Where Did His Anger Go?
42:25 What Do Feelings Require Us to Do?
47:11 Can There Be Room for Grief?
48:35 What Happens When a Relationship Lives in Secret?
50:02 Can They Still Cross the Bridge?
About Where Should We Begin?:
Every Monday morning, step into the office of iconic psychotherapist Esther Perel and listen in as real people in search of insight bare the raw, intimate, and profound details of their stories. From breakups and open relationships to workplace conflicts and fractures in the family, it’s a place to hear our own stories reflected in the lives of others.
About Esther Perel:
Psychotherapist, relationship expert, and New York Times bestselling author Esther Perel is recognized as one of today’s most insightful and original voices on modern relationships. Fluent in nine languages, she helms a therapy practice in New York City and serves as an organizational consultant for Fortune 500 companies around the world. Her celebrated TED Talks have garnered more than 40 million views and her bestselling books, Mating in Captivity and The State of Affairs, are global phenomena translated into more than 30 languages. Esther is also the host of the hit podcast Where Should We Begin? which is available on Apple Podcasts. Learn more at EstherPerel.com or by subscribing to her Substack Entre Nous for bonus content.
