Kierio04 | MKWii TAS Competition 2023 - Task 8 Results @Kierio04 | Uploaded 1 year ago | Updated 2 hours ago
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MKWii TAS Competition 2023 - Task 8:
On DS Desert Hills, using ANY character on an inside drifting bike, and a maximum of FIVE mushrooms, complete lap ONE as fast as possible.
- You may NOT interact with any trees
- You MUST use the provided infinite mushrooms code
- You MUST perform all three specified backwards shortcuts in any order*
This is a solo task, so you may NOT collaborate with anyone else.
Clarifications:
*Map of shortcuts: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/699069741146308650/1097207957181169716/rDHBackwardsShortcut.png)
This image was provided to better describe the following backwards shortcuts:
1. Beginning from the side of the lake opposite of the finish line, land on the wall that outlines the southern-most point of the lake. You then must land back on the ground (does not need to be the offroad i.e. OOB is ok, and does not need to be under your control i.e. during respawning is ok) by driving off the wall AND re-enter checkpoint 3 (the checkpoint does not need to be loaded i.e. you just have to enter the bounds of where cp3 would be if it were loaded) before continuing (i.e. you can't just start driving forward again and drop off past the lake cut)
2. Drive backwards through the offroad between the wall and the top right corner of the pyramid to reach the main road on the opposite side
3. Jump over the solid out-of-bounds to land on the other side (where the pokeys are)
0:00 Intro
0:10 Results
10:00 Comparison
10:54 Outro
Task 8 Results:
1st. this is police 0:41.449
2nd. Thomas 0:42.352
3rd. CampbellMop 0:42.839
4th. Booshi 0:43.425
5th. Mikul 0:48.356
6th. kierio04 0:48.523
7th. KaiMK 0:49.322
8th. flurry 0:49.762
9th. DashQC 0:49.768
10th. ivycomb 0:50.434
11th. marvus 0:51.421
12th. ZachC3 0:54.205
13th. Pyraminxstars 0:54.306
14th. Rogue 0:57.985
15th. 315C 0:59.489
16th. clem 1:01.841
17th. ThatoNeroOkie 1:03.510
DQ. tormi 0:47.183 [Submitted after the deadline]
DQ. Core 0:50.154 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1]
DQ. CHARL1E 0:52.240 [Does not go back to the main road during backwards SC #2]
DQ. GreenWeebo38 0:54.378 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1]
DQ. aaron 0:54.541 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1]
DQ. Eribetra 0:59.344 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1, Uses more than 5 mushrooms]
DQ. KCLClams 1:04.423 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1]
DQ. koncentraitor44 1:06.640 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1]
DQ. Giles Corey 1:08.048 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1]
DQ. GaelLazerYT [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1, Performs one backwards SC every lap for 3 laps]
Music used:
Astral Ascent - Red Barrens: Exploration (youtu.be/yqBclFGvpDg?t=567)
Astral Ascent - Red Barrens: Combats (youtu.be/yqBclFGvpDg?t=684)
Comparison section recorded with MKW-SP. For more information, visit mkw-sp.com
Join the MKWii TAS Competition: discord.gg/SwqvuNm
Watch the result stream for this task: twitch.tv/videos/1813645764
Watch all result streams live: twitch.tv/kierio04
Hosted by @flurry_nt
MKWii TAS Competition 2023 - Task 8:
On DS Desert Hills, using ANY character on an inside drifting bike, and a maximum of FIVE mushrooms, complete lap ONE as fast as possible.
- You may NOT interact with any trees
- You MUST use the provided infinite mushrooms code
- You MUST perform all three specified backwards shortcuts in any order*
This is a solo task, so you may NOT collaborate with anyone else.
Clarifications:
*Map of shortcuts: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/699069741146308650/1097207957181169716/rDHBackwardsShortcut.png)
This image was provided to better describe the following backwards shortcuts:
1. Beginning from the side of the lake opposite of the finish line, land on the wall that outlines the southern-most point of the lake. You then must land back on the ground (does not need to be the offroad i.e. OOB is ok, and does not need to be under your control i.e. during respawning is ok) by driving off the wall AND re-enter checkpoint 3 (the checkpoint does not need to be loaded i.e. you just have to enter the bounds of where cp3 would be if it were loaded) before continuing (i.e. you can't just start driving forward again and drop off past the lake cut)
2. Drive backwards through the offroad between the wall and the top right corner of the pyramid to reach the main road on the opposite side
3. Jump over the solid out-of-bounds to land on the other side (where the pokeys are)
0:00 Intro
0:10 Results
10:00 Comparison
10:54 Outro
Task 8 Results:
1st. this is police 0:41.449
2nd. Thomas 0:42.352
3rd. CampbellMop 0:42.839
4th. Booshi 0:43.425
5th. Mikul 0:48.356
6th. kierio04 0:48.523
7th. KaiMK 0:49.322
8th. flurry 0:49.762
9th. DashQC 0:49.768
10th. ivycomb 0:50.434
11th. marvus 0:51.421
12th. ZachC3 0:54.205
13th. Pyraminxstars 0:54.306
14th. Rogue 0:57.985
15th. 315C 0:59.489
16th. clem 1:01.841
17th. ThatoNeroOkie 1:03.510
DQ. tormi 0:47.183 [Submitted after the deadline]
DQ. Core 0:50.154 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1]
DQ. CHARL1E 0:52.240 [Does not go back to the main road during backwards SC #2]
DQ. GreenWeebo38 0:54.378 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1]
DQ. aaron 0:54.541 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1]
DQ. Eribetra 0:59.344 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1, Uses more than 5 mushrooms]
DQ. KCLClams 1:04.423 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1]
DQ. koncentraitor44 1:06.640 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1]
DQ. Giles Corey 1:08.048 [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1]
DQ. GaelLazerYT [Does not touch CP3 after backwards SC #1, Performs one backwards SC every lap for 3 laps]
Music used:
Astral Ascent - Red Barrens: Exploration (youtu.be/yqBclFGvpDg?t=567)
Astral Ascent - Red Barrens: Combats (youtu.be/yqBclFGvpDg?t=684)
Comparison section recorded with MKW-SP. For more information, visit mkw-sp.com
![[MKWii TAS] my first cutsom track (Shortcut) - 2:39.608 #grassjam79](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TY7OsHhWfxs/hqdefault.jpg "[MKWii TAS] my first cutsom track (Shortcut) - 2:39.608 #grassjam79
TAS by @Kierio04 (myself).
Download this track: https://wiki.tockdom.com/wiki/my_first_cutsom_track
Watch the CT Jam 76 results video: https://youtu.be/YZW815S0js0
Music: Super Mario 3D World - Blockade (https://youtu.be/5FHVQw1cAsI)
So, Series 4 of Custom Track Jams just had its debut competition, which was an Autumn-themed Jam, featuring none other than my first cutsom track by @p00ks1. This track garnered a lot of popularity due to its sheer length and brokenness. Many people initially got times in the 10-15 minute range, and begun pushing their times down to 3-4 minutes.
My first attempt was a 9:00, using Flame Runner. I soon realised Magikruiser would be faster as there were multiple minutes of offroad driving, which helped me get down to a 6:58. I then came up with the grass jam sign strat and 2 major reroutes - the first from KCP 1 to KCP 3 and the second from KCP 3 to KCP 6 - which brought my time down to a 3:07. Now that I was skipping the long offroad section, I switched to Spear, and took my time down to 3:00 and then 2:57.
@KaneTheSnowman then beat this time RTA, so I messaged him asking what strategies he had used. He didnt use the grass jam sign (obviously) or the first reroute, and managed to respawn directly in KCP 3. I was then able to get a 2:47 by copying these strats, though found the grass jam sign to still be faster and got a 2:41. I tested supergrinding in the tunnel, and using a very precise ejection involving all 4 sides of the tunnel, was able to make it faster by less than half a second, and got a 2:40. Further optimisation over the next few days brought me down to my goal of 2:39.
I hope to continue work on the second episode of the tutorial soon - huge apologies to those who Ive left on an educational cliffhanger. In the meantime, if you join the MKWii TAS discord, you should be able to find enough help to bring you the rest of the way without further tutorial episodes.")
![[MKWii TAS] N64 Bowsers Castle Flap - 21.342 (Ultra)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VlxroOew0rk/hqdefault.jpg "[MKWii TAS] N64 Bowsers Castle Flap - 21.342 (Ultra)
TAS by @Kierio04 (myself), @Malleo, and @EjayB.
-0.008 from Previous BKT (21.350 by Monster): https://youtu.be/WNr_oAEmDFo
-2.630 from Previous IDB BKT (23.972 by Malleo, Marth, Ejay, Luke, Thomas, and myself): https://youtu.be/zI7a7aTBREw&t=71
-8.410 from Current RTA WR (29.752 by Logan): https://youtu.be/6Wri7nBtZMk
Music: Super Mario Kart - Bowser Castle (https://youtu.be/7NMQUBOXu1g)
...Huh? Why are we back on an inside drifting bike again? Thats a good question. Let me tell you the full story.
Rewind all the way back to December 2019. @09cf comes up with the idea of performing rBC ultra with a barrel roll (https://youtu.be/cQyCPvTisTY). If successful, this would bring the current flap (at the time, 27.346) down by several seconds. In February 2020, he tried setting the barrel roll up on the wall itself (https://youtu.be/s9h-g4Or_zc), but that didnt lead to anything. It wasnt until November 2020 that he got it (https://youtu.be/l zrBDTiTs), though it took 3 mushrooms, and the flap time was over 30 seconds (though it could be improved).
He immediately realised an easier setup by dropping off the wall which would make it RTA viable (https://youtu.be/MbPsnzIzBWI), and begun working on a release video for the new strategy. In the process of cleaning up the demo lap, Ejay managed to get the 2 shroom barrel roll ultra (https://youtu.be/RHRVhBVz7yM), giving a flap time of 27.534. Realising it was close to the flap BKT, Ejay pushed it down to a 27.310 post-upload.
Fast-forward 2 weeks and Malleo is now interested in TASing an optimised flap with the new strategy. Malleo and Ejay worked together for 2 days on the setup, clocking a preliminary 24.137 - over 3 seconds faster than the previous flap BKT. Unfortunately the flap hype didnt last long, as Marth and I had finally begun working on an optimised ultra 3lap. This unfinished flap was not touched for over a year.
During the making of the 3lap, we managed to get a lap 2 time of 23.972. @campbellmop355 then infamously had us restarting lap 3 when he saved more than a frame over the ending section, getting a 23.954. Before this however, I had made a few prelim lap 3s, and got a 2:05.226, which when spliced with the fastest existing end section after the spiral skip, gave a 2:05.116, which is what the published TAS is. Since this was the first time any flap faster than the 27.346 was released, 23.972 finally became the new flap BKT.
In September 2021, @justin3055 showed a way to skip the second respawn using a shroomless barrel roll clip (https://youtu.be/Oxaopl0QMJ8), then later that same day Ejay did it without a barrel roll (https://youtu.be/JA04l-AiUT4), completely revolutionising shroomless clips from then on. Branching off the 3lap, he got a 22.130 lap 2 which, when spliced with the beginning of the Ejay/Malleo flap with 2020, would yield a 21.938.
In February 2022, I finally decided to work on the flap with the intention of finishing it with others. I spliced the 24.137 and 22.130 to get the 21.938, then worked my way down to a 21.799, knowing about 0.5 could be cut from a quicker SSMT release at the clip. As was the trend at the time, this new project showed up and then gathered dust, being left untouched for another year.
It wasnt until April Fools Day this year, with @Monster3rum uploading the 21.350 with Zip Zip and superhopping, that became interested in really pushing Spear to its limits, hoping to finally give the public a chance to see the work that was done and never put out in the open. I took it upon myself to improve the SSMT, now having some more experience with shroomless clips, and brought it down to 21.342, barely edging out Monsters time.
I had intended to upload it then and there for yet another double April Fools, pairing it with the DKS flap (like I did with the rDH and rPB videos in 2022). However, that night Monster improved his own Zip Zip time by 0.5 seemingly out of nowhere - getting it down to a 20.816, so I decided not to upload, expecting him to upload his run soon. But then he proceeded to not do that... for 8 months! So, while the 20.8 hasnt been uploaded yet, you all get to enjoy Spear being faster than Zip Zip by a mere 8 milliseconds (and then once it is uploaded, this will still be IDB BKT, yay!)
Improvements:
- If this really quick setup by Ejay (https://youtu.be/jhg9Fq4UQ5Y) could work, then it might be enough to edge out Zip Zip for a second time
- Its slightly faster to do the turnaround as Ejay does in his original shroomless clip demo (https://youtu.be/JA04l-AiUT4), but I didnt seem to have the right QM for that when I made this
- You may not be able to notice the difference by watching, but the last turn is slightly worse than the current best one seen in the 3lap (which itself could be improved by 0.018 as shown by CampbellMop)
Want to see more TASes and TAS projects? Visit https://mkwtas.com
or the MKWii TAS discord, at https://discord.gg/NCZghgy")
