Kierio04 | MKWii TAS Competition 2023 - Task 17 Results @Kierio04 | Uploaded 10 months ago | Updated 1 hour ago
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MKWii TAS Competition 2023 - Task 17:
On Justin's Box Track, using a maximum of THREE mushrooms, complete lap 1 as fast as possible.
- You may not take the offroad shortcut that bypasses the first drivable wall.*
- You may not perform an ultra shortcut.
This is a solo task, so you may NOT collaborate with anyone else.
Clarifications:
*You may not enter in collision with mud, or go over the mud.
0:00 Intro
0:10 Results
7:07 Comparison
7:35 Outro
Task 17 Results:
1st. marvus 0:12.737
2nd. acaruso 0:13.894
3rd. Core 0:17.464
4th. Jellopuff 0:17.969
5th. KaiMK 0:17.999
6th. CampbellMop 0:18.044
7th. DashQC 0:18.452
8th. kierio04 0:18.484
9th. Alego11 0:18.494
10th. Zappg 0:18.648
11th. this is police 0:18.672
12th. CHARL1E 0:18.679
13th. lirwm 0:18.888
14th. clem 0:18.914
15th. shxd 0:25.992
16th. ZachC3 0:31.921
DQ. Epik95 0:14.304 [Submitted after the deadline]
DQ. Aylx 0:53.623 [Submitted after the deadline, Went through the offroad cut]
Music used:
PokeRemixStudio - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2: Primal Dialga Remix
(youtu.be/poiqPQpiTN0)
Comparison section recorded with MKW-SP. For more information, visit mkw-sp.com
Join the MKWii TAS Competition: discord.gg/SwqvuNm
Watch the result stream for this task: twitch.tv/videos/1936798761
Watch all result streams live: twitch.tv/kierio04
Hosted by @DashQC
Edited by @TASmarvus
MKWii TAS Competition 2023 - Task 17:
On Justin's Box Track, using a maximum of THREE mushrooms, complete lap 1 as fast as possible.
- You may not take the offroad shortcut that bypasses the first drivable wall.*
- You may not perform an ultra shortcut.
This is a solo task, so you may NOT collaborate with anyone else.
Clarifications:
*You may not enter in collision with mud, or go over the mud.
0:00 Intro
0:10 Results
7:07 Comparison
7:35 Outro
Task 17 Results:
1st. marvus 0:12.737
2nd. acaruso 0:13.894
3rd. Core 0:17.464
4th. Jellopuff 0:17.969
5th. KaiMK 0:17.999
6th. CampbellMop 0:18.044
7th. DashQC 0:18.452
8th. kierio04 0:18.484
9th. Alego11 0:18.494
10th. Zappg 0:18.648
11th. this is police 0:18.672
12th. CHARL1E 0:18.679
13th. lirwm 0:18.888
14th. clem 0:18.914
15th. shxd 0:25.992
16th. ZachC3 0:31.921
DQ. Epik95 0:14.304 [Submitted after the deadline]
DQ. Aylx 0:53.623 [Submitted after the deadline, Went through the offroad cut]
Music used:
PokeRemixStudio - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2: Primal Dialga Remix
(youtu.be/poiqPQpiTN0)
Comparison section recorded with MKW-SP. For more information, visit mkw-sp.com
![[MKWii TAS] N64 Bowsers Castle Flap - 21.342 (Ultra)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VlxroOew0rk/hqdefault.jpg "[MKWii TAS] N64 Bowsers Castle Flap - 21.342 (Ultra)
TAS by @Kierio04 (myself), @Malleo, and @EjayB.
-0.008 from Previous BKT (21.350 by Monster): https://youtu.be/WNr_oAEmDFo
-2.630 from Previous IDB BKT (23.972 by Malleo, Marth, Ejay, Luke, Thomas, and myself): https://youtu.be/zI7a7aTBREw&t=71
-8.410 from Current RTA WR (29.752 by Logan): https://youtu.be/6Wri7nBtZMk
Music: Super Mario Kart - Bowser Castle (https://youtu.be/7NMQUBOXu1g)
...Huh? Why are we back on an inside drifting bike again? Thats a good question. Let me tell you the full story.
Rewind all the way back to December 2019. @09cf comes up with the idea of performing rBC ultra with a barrel roll (https://youtu.be/cQyCPvTisTY). If successful, this would bring the current flap (at the time, 27.346) down by several seconds. In February 2020, he tried setting the barrel roll up on the wall itself (https://youtu.be/s9h-g4Or_zc), but that didnt lead to anything. It wasnt until November 2020 that he got it (https://youtu.be/l zrBDTiTs), though it took 3 mushrooms, and the flap time was over 30 seconds (though it could be improved).
He immediately realised an easier setup by dropping off the wall which would make it RTA viable (https://youtu.be/MbPsnzIzBWI), and begun working on a release video for the new strategy. In the process of cleaning up the demo lap, Ejay managed to get the 2 shroom barrel roll ultra (https://youtu.be/RHRVhBVz7yM), giving a flap time of 27.534. Realising it was close to the flap BKT, Ejay pushed it down to a 27.310 post-upload.
Fast-forward 2 weeks and Malleo is now interested in TASing an optimised flap with the new strategy. Malleo and Ejay worked together for 2 days on the setup, clocking a preliminary 24.137 - over 3 seconds faster than the previous flap BKT. Unfortunately the flap hype didnt last long, as Marth and I had finally begun working on an optimised ultra 3lap. This unfinished flap was not touched for over a year.
During the making of the 3lap, we managed to get a lap 2 time of 23.972. @campbellmop355 then infamously had us restarting lap 3 when he saved more than a frame over the ending section, getting a 23.954. Before this however, I had made a few prelim lap 3s, and got a 2:05.226, which when spliced with the fastest existing end section after the spiral skip, gave a 2:05.116, which is what the published TAS is. Since this was the first time any flap faster than the 27.346 was released, 23.972 finally became the new flap BKT.
In September 2021, @justin3055 showed a way to skip the second respawn using a shroomless barrel roll clip (https://youtu.be/Oxaopl0QMJ8), then later that same day Ejay did it without a barrel roll (https://youtu.be/JA04l-AiUT4), completely revolutionising shroomless clips from then on. Branching off the 3lap, he got a 22.130 lap 2 which, when spliced with the beginning of the Ejay/Malleo flap with 2020, would yield a 21.938.
In February 2022, I finally decided to work on the flap with the intention of finishing it with others. I spliced the 24.137 and 22.130 to get the 21.938, then worked my way down to a 21.799, knowing about 0.5 could be cut from a quicker SSMT release at the clip. As was the trend at the time, this new project showed up and then gathered dust, being left untouched for another year.
It wasnt until April Fools Day this year, with @Monster3rum uploading the 21.350 with Zip Zip and superhopping, that became interested in really pushing Spear to its limits, hoping to finally give the public a chance to see the work that was done and never put out in the open. I took it upon myself to improve the SSMT, now having some more experience with shroomless clips, and brought it down to 21.342, barely edging out Monsters time.
I had intended to upload it then and there for yet another double April Fools, pairing it with the DKS flap (like I did with the rDH and rPB videos in 2022). However, that night Monster improved his own Zip Zip time by 0.5 seemingly out of nowhere - getting it down to a 20.816, so I decided not to upload, expecting him to upload his run soon. But then he proceeded to not do that... for 8 months! So, while the 20.8 hasnt been uploaded yet, you all get to enjoy Spear being faster than Zip Zip by a mere 8 milliseconds (and then once it is uploaded, this will still be IDB BKT, yay!)
Improvements:
- If this really quick setup by Ejay (https://youtu.be/jhg9Fq4UQ5Y) could work, then it might be enough to edge out Zip Zip for a second time
- Its slightly faster to do the turnaround as Ejay does in his original shroomless clip demo (https://youtu.be/JA04l-AiUT4), but I didnt seem to have the right QM for that when I made this
- You may not be able to notice the difference by watching, but the last turn is slightly worse than the current best one seen in the 3lap (which itself could be improved by 0.018 as shown by CampbellMop)
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![[MKWii TAS] DS Delfino Square Flap - 35.524 (Supergrinding/Superhopping)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XDwxXBNC284/hqdefault.jpg "[MKWii TAS] DS Delfino Square Flap - 35.524 (Supergrinding/Superhopping)
TAS by @Kierio04 and @EjayB.
-1.555 from TAS by myself (https://youtu.be/qphlgtiyAxY)
Music: Animal Crossing: City Folk - The City (Day) (https://youtu.be/GeLcJaFBw44)
I started working on this TAS back in October, and reached out to Ejay asking if he wanted to collaborate with me. He agreed, and helped optimise the latter half of the supergrind, the fountain shortcut, and the deceptively difficult turn after. After a bit of inactivity, I was able to get a prelim 36.3 in November.
After that, little to no work was done on the TAS until this past week. Since we last worked on the flap, Thomas did significant work on a lap 1 for a 3lap TAS, showcasing optimised ODB strats. I realised that we had the incorrect cycle as the drawbridge needs to NOT be flat, so Ejay and I agreed to just clean up the rest of the lap and leave out the ending SG as the only major optimisation missed (as we would need to optimise the entire TAS from scratch multiple times to find out when we would need to start the lap, which would be very tedious and a huge waste of time). After a couple full days working on it, I was able to finish the run, saving another 0.8 from just optimising better.
Fun fact: Some of you may have seen in the TAS discord that I told Thomas about the SH around the turn at 0:31 when he was working on that part of the lap 1 TAS. I did this because I had done some work on this flap and found the SH there, only to find Thomas not using it.
Special thanks to Ejay for suggesting the music, I really like it.
Want to see more TASes and TAS projects? Visit https://mkwtas.com
or the MKWii TAS discord, at https://discord.gg/NCZghgy")
