Uploaded May 2022 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
This was a really fun conversation for feeling into conversational dynamics. We start out in a bit of a stilted mode, and then things loosen up and we sink into the unknown a bit together.
0:00 we talk about meta-norms
30:53 we go meta on the convo
Kasra's twitter: twitter.com/huggingpuppy
Links (let me know if I forgot one)
my tweet about different types of meta-norms: twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1012712458203615232
ask/guess culture article: ask.metafilter.com/55153/Whats-the-middle-ground-between-FU-and-Welcome#830421
high involvement / high considerateness: lingthusiasm.com/post/189888737921/transcript-episode-39-how-to-rebalance-a-lopsided
i-it pointing: twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1528216026575302656
co-what-now: malcolmocean.com/2022/05/aiming-for-flow-sovereignty-on-the-largest-scale-presently-possible-co-what-now
This was a really fun conversation for feeling into conversational dynamics. We start out in a bit of a stilted mode, and then things loosen up and we sink into the unknown a bit together.
0:00 we talk about meta-norms
30:53 we go meta on the convo
Kasra's twitter: twitter.com/huggingpuppy
Links (let me know if I forgot one)
my tweet about different types of meta-norms: twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1012712458203615232
ask/guess culture article: ask.metafilter.com/55153/Whats-the-middle-ground-between-FU-and-Welcome#830421
high involvement / high considerateness: lingthusiasm.com/post/189888737921/transcript-episode-39-how-to-rebalance-a-lopsided
i-it pointing: twitter.com/Malcolm_Ocean/status/1528216026575302656
co-what-now: malcolmocean.com/2022/05/aiming-for-flow-sovereignty-on-the-largest-scale-presently-possible-co-what-now
![The Courage to Leave (original song by Malcolm Ocean)
I wrote this song over the last few months.
Lyrics:
[verse 1]
theres a tiny note of sadness, every time I hear a love song
Ive been trying not to notice but its getting kinda hard to ignore
and the more the song resonates with what I want, the more something in me feels wrong
I look towards the future... what am I in for?
[bridge]
its been hard, but itll always be hard they say
how hard is too hard? its been all work and no play
with a sense that something better is waiting ever just around the bend
so it never feels like the moment to end
...well maybe theres not gonna be a right moment
[chorus 1]
to find the courage to leave
Im learning to listen to myself, and go slow
after years of being proud, that I had the courage to say “yes”
I’m finding the courage to say “no”
[verse 2]
we doubled down and tried harder, every time the going got tough
our friends admire how weve stuck it through
but it seems to me now: no amount of fighting ourselves, was ever gonna make us feel like enough
I cant accept myself not accepting you... what do I do?
[chorus 2]
Im finding the courage to leave
Im learning to listen to myself, and go slow
after years of thinking that I had it all figured out
I’m finding the courage to say “I don’t know”
[suspiciously familiar instrumental interlude]
[verse 3]
my heart swelled with determination, every time I sang I Wont Give Up
yeah that song truly helped me face a whole lot of my fears
but I sang so loud I drowned out the voices saying hey, I never signed up for this
I rushed into it—where am I?—what am I doing here?
[chorus 3 & 4]
Im finding the courage to leave
Im learning to listen to myself, and go slow
after years of being proud, that I had the courage to stay
I’m finding the courage to go
Im finding the courage to leave
Im learning to listen to myself, and take time
after years of trying to become someone who could fulfill all your dreams
I’m finding the courage to own mine
Lyrics with chords: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FqRH7_z2hvXiIfSETtjsy2onK65UpWT54oXAI81CVc0/edit The Courage to Leave (original song by Malcolm Ocean)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SaDvHT0IxBw/mqdefault.jpg)








![Lost and Found (Original Song) – Malcolm Ocean
I wrote a song! Brief blog post about the song here:
http://malcolmocean.com/2015/07/lost-and-found-song/
Aaaaand, lyrics:
I got lost, and found
that I could no longer hear my favorite sounds
and so I wandered around... singing aloud
trying to capture all these thoughts
trying to master all these abilities
learning to connect all the dots
and cultivating possibilities
I got lost, and found
that all my bright colors had turned to greys and browns
as I wandered around, downtown
looking around at all the faces
tryna recognize the places
their minds must be
to generate the shapes I see
simulate them on my own features
the body is my teacher, of how they feel
making these strangers real, to me
[instrumental]
I got lost, and found
that I just couldnt seem to keep my feet on the ground
and so I wandered around, the clouds
Tryna find my direction
but I need a more direct connection
with my terminal goals, to
determine which road to point my soles to
Find a reason for all my actions—
gain some better traction
using fusion and fission...
to align my hands with my vision...
in every life decision...
—
I found my map was not the territory
at first, this was kinda scary for me
but I know that living with uncertainty
beats living with a false sense of security
so now the plan is to think on everything I think I know
and if it doesnt match the world to let it go
putting what remains into creations like this song
reminding me that I can never be quite right only Less Wrong
So I seek out every opportunity
for creating and cultivating possibilities
meeting with groups of people, with intersecting goals
and integrating them into an interconnected whole
the conversations get more and more and more abstract
and meta and meta-meta and just like this they go off-track
but in the end were honing in on the world we wanna see
all intelligent beings... acting with empathy
—
I got lost, and found
I had so much to do, and so many questions how
but the wandering around... ends now Lost and Found (Original Song) – Malcolm Ocean](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VkJe3W0Cbgs/mqdefault.jpg)
