Uploaded March 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
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Episode 101: Are AI social media agents replacing real creators on platforms like Meta? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Joe Fier (youtube.com/@joefier) dive deep into this week’s major AI releases and the evolving role of autonomous agents.
This episode explores cutting-edge updates from OpenAI, Anthropic, and Canva—including interactive visual explainers and Canva’s Magic Layers—and how these tools transform user experience and content creation. The hosts also unpack Meta’s acquisition of Maltbook, the viral social media network for AI agents, and discuss the broader implications for creators, businesses, and marketers. Plus, with clips from Sam Altman and Jensen Huang, the conversation turns to the future of intelligence as a commodity, the rise of agent-optimized marketing, and the changing value of intuition versus IQ. Robots, new prompt formulas, and the "deader internet" theory round out this lively, unpredictable episode.
Check out The Next Wave Podcast if you’re on the go and want to listen to the show: lnk.to/thenextwaveyt
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Show Notes:
00:00 — Intro: Visual AI Week
01:00 — ChatGPT Visual Explainers (Pre-Built, ~70 Demos)
05:00 — Testing ChatGPT: Compound Interest & Gas Laws
07:00 — Claude Interactive Charts Drop — Generated on the Fly
08:00 — Head to Head: Claude vs ChatGPT Visuals
11:00 — Live Demo: Padres Schedule Calendar in Claude
14:00 — The Prompt That Unlocks Claude's Visual Mode
22:00 — Anthropic/Pentagon Interactive Timeline (This Gets Crazy)
28:00 — Flow Charts, Abstraction Layers & Richard Feynman Mode
38:00 — Canva Magic Layers: Break Any Image into Editable Layers
41:00 — Live Demo: Thumbnail Redesign with Magic Layers
45:00 — AI Infographic → Editable Canva Layers
50:00 — Political Photo Shenanigans (Peak Matt & Joe Energy)
57:00 — Sam Altman: AI as a Metered Utility
01:00:00 — On-Prem AI = Going Off-Grid from Sam's Meter
01:07:00 — Jensen Huang: Smart = EQ + Intuition, Not IQ
01:14:00 — IQ Is a Commodity — What Actually Builds Wealth
01:19:00 — Meta Acquires Molt Book (The AI Agent Social Network)
01:26:00 — Matt's Theory: Meta Wants to Cut Creators Out
01:30:00 — Agent Optimization: Marketing to Bots, Not Humans
01:34:00 — Dead Internet Theory Gets Deader
01:36:00 — Helix O2 Living Room Cleanup Robot Demo
01:41:00 — Humanoid Robots vs Purpose-Built Robots Debate
01:43:00 — Alexa Gets Sassy & OpenAI Pulls Back on Adult Mode
01:46:00 — Matt's Rant: Is This Really "For the Benefit of Humanity"?
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Mentions:
Joe Fier: youtube.com/@joefier
Manus: https://manus.im/
Claude: claude.ai
Gemini: gemini.google.com/app
Cursor: cursor.com
Canva: canva.com
Maltbook: maltbook.com
Get the guide to build your own Custom GPT: clickhubspot.com/tnw
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Check Out Matt’s Stuff:
• Future Tools - futuretools.beehiiv.com
• Blog - mattwolfe.com
• YouTube- youtube.com/@mreflow
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Check Out Nathan's Stuff:
Newsletter: news.lore.com
Blog - lore.com
The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano
*Get Matt's favorite AI tools:* clickhubspot.com/jfd
Episode 101: Are AI social media agents replacing real creators on platforms like Meta? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Joe Fier (youtube.com/@joefier) dive deep into this week’s major AI releases and the evolving role of autonomous agents.
This episode explores cutting-edge updates from OpenAI, Anthropic, and Canva—including interactive visual explainers and Canva’s Magic Layers—and how these tools transform user experience and content creation. The hosts also unpack Meta’s acquisition of Maltbook, the viral social media network for AI agents, and discuss the broader implications for creators, businesses, and marketers. Plus, with clips from Sam Altman and Jensen Huang, the conversation turns to the future of intelligence as a commodity, the rise of agent-optimized marketing, and the changing value of intuition versus IQ. Robots, new prompt formulas, and the "deader internet" theory round out this lively, unpredictable episode.
Check out The Next Wave Podcast if you’re on the go and want to listen to the show: lnk.to/thenextwaveyt
—
Show Notes:
00:00 — Intro: Visual AI Week
01:00 — ChatGPT Visual Explainers (Pre-Built, ~70 Demos)
05:00 — Testing ChatGPT: Compound Interest & Gas Laws
07:00 — Claude Interactive Charts Drop — Generated on the Fly
08:00 — Head to Head: Claude vs ChatGPT Visuals
11:00 — Live Demo: Padres Schedule Calendar in Claude
14:00 — The Prompt That Unlocks Claude's Visual Mode
22:00 — Anthropic/Pentagon Interactive Timeline (This Gets Crazy)
28:00 — Flow Charts, Abstraction Layers & Richard Feynman Mode
38:00 — Canva Magic Layers: Break Any Image into Editable Layers
41:00 — Live Demo: Thumbnail Redesign with Magic Layers
45:00 — AI Infographic → Editable Canva Layers
50:00 — Political Photo Shenanigans (Peak Matt & Joe Energy)
57:00 — Sam Altman: AI as a Metered Utility
01:00:00 — On-Prem AI = Going Off-Grid from Sam's Meter
01:07:00 — Jensen Huang: Smart = EQ + Intuition, Not IQ
01:14:00 — IQ Is a Commodity — What Actually Builds Wealth
01:19:00 — Meta Acquires Molt Book (The AI Agent Social Network)
01:26:00 — Matt's Theory: Meta Wants to Cut Creators Out
01:30:00 — Agent Optimization: Marketing to Bots, Not Humans
01:34:00 — Dead Internet Theory Gets Deader
01:36:00 — Helix O2 Living Room Cleanup Robot Demo
01:41:00 — Humanoid Robots vs Purpose-Built Robots Debate
01:43:00 — Alexa Gets Sassy & OpenAI Pulls Back on Adult Mode
01:46:00 — Matt's Rant: Is This Really "For the Benefit of Humanity"?
—
Mentions:
Joe Fier: youtube.com/@joefier
Manus: https://manus.im/
Claude: claude.ai
Gemini: gemini.google.com/app
Cursor: cursor.com
Canva: canva.com
Maltbook: maltbook.com
Get the guide to build your own Custom GPT: clickhubspot.com/tnw
—
Check Out Matt’s Stuff:
• Future Tools - futuretools.beehiiv.com
• Blog - mattwolfe.com
• YouTube- youtube.com/@mreflow
—
Check Out Nathan's Stuff:
Newsletter: news.lore.com
Blog - lore.com
The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano
