Uploaded January 2022 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago
Mark Rustad worked at Minnesota Educational
Computing Consortium (MECC) where he developed "Classroom Star",
classroom networking hardware for the Atari 8-bits -- a product
that was not released by Atari. Then he worked at Atari 1983-1984
as Systems Project Leader, where he troubleshooted the DTMF dialing
on the Atari 1030 modem. We also talk about Mark’s work with the
PLATO educational computer system.
Software provided by Mark: archive.org/details/Rustad_Atari_8bit
Classroom Star mentioned in Creative Computing magazine: atarimagazines.com/creative/v10n7/206_The_1450_XLD_is_not_dead.php
Mark Rustad worked at Minnesota Educational
Computing Consortium (MECC) where he developed "Classroom Star",
classroom networking hardware for the Atari 8-bits -- a product
that was not released by Atari. Then he worked at Atari 1983-1984
as Systems Project Leader, where he troubleshooted the DTMF dialing
on the Atari 1030 modem. We also talk about Mark’s work with the
PLATO educational computer system.
Software provided by Mark: archive.org/details/Rustad_Atari_8bit
Classroom Star mentioned in Creative Computing magazine: atarimagazines.com/creative/v10n7/206_The_1450_XLD_is_not_dead.php
![Aric Wilmunder: Star Raiders II, Temple of Apshai — interview
Here’s how Aric Wilmunder introduced himself to me: “When The Last Starfighter didn’t do well in the theaters and marketing re-branded the Atari 800 Last Starfighter game as Star Raiders II, they didn’t take into account that there was already an actual sequel to Star Raiders that was just a few months away from completion. I was the designer and solo engineer who worked for about a year on the project as a member of an R&D team inside Atari Coin-Op. A friend helped me copy the disk image a few years back and when I saw Steve Hales post your tweet about the source code [for Star Raiders] I thought there might be some interest.
“The game was close to being finished, but there were still parts that needed polishing like the enemy AI, so I’ve been hesitant to release it since it might be judged as a finished work. I’d hate to wait 30 years to release the game just to get a bad review.”
Aric Wilmunder started writing programs on the Exidy Sorcerer computer, then worked at Automated Simulations, writing the Atari 8-bit conversions of Star Warrior; Crush, Crumble, and Chomp; and Temple of Apshai. Next he worked at Atari’s corporate research department, where he worked on Chris Crawford’s Gossip game. Then, in the R&D department at Atari coin-op, he created Star Raiders II for the Atari 8-bit computers — a game that was never finished nor released. Later he worked at LucasFilm games, where his work included the XEGS version of Ballblazer.
This interview took place December 5, 2015.
Teaser quotes:
“A music video on the Atari 800. So it was video and art being displayed on the Atari 800 that was in sync with music that was playing off of a CD.”
“[In Star Raiders] Because you’re targeting the Xylons, you’re putting them in your crosshairs, you’re actually their A.I. ... All they had to do was this very simple A.I. to move around, and the closer you track them, the more accurate they become. ... [Doug Neubauer] let the player fight themselves.”
Download Star Raiders II ATR file and documentation (click Show All): https://archive.org/details/StarRaidersII_Wilmunder
Video of unreleased, unfinished Star Raiders II: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb03mSdMaYc
Aric’s web site: https://web.archive.org/web/20170721225328/http://www.wilmunder.com/Arics_World/1980s.html
Custom PC Magazine article about SCUMM and interview with Aric (see page 86): http://issuu.com/duongkim/docs/custom_pc 2015.10 Aric Wilmunder: Star Raiders II, Temple of Apshai — interview](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NLyhJiENtLs/mqdefault.jpg)









![The Famous Computer Cafe 1984-11-17 Bill Gates and Kazuhiko Nishi
The Famous Computer Cafe 1984-11-17 Bill Gates and Kazuhiko Nishi. Aired on KIEV.
Digitized from reel-to-reel tape by Harbor Digitizing of Friday Harbor, Washington.
The Famous Computer Cafe recovery and digitization project was done by Kay Savetz in 2024. If you have access to other episodes of Famous Computer Cafe on tape, please contact Kay Savetz.
00:00 [Intro] sponsored by The Software Spot of west Los Angeles, CA with Ellen Walker, Michael Walker, Andy Velcoff
03:43 [Ad] Framework by Ashton Tate at The Software Spot for $525
04:29 [Ad] Home Accountant Plus by Continental Software at Software Center International in Encino, CA
05:39 [Tutorial] Koala Technologies Muppet Learning Keyboard
09:47 Interview with Bill Gates, “whiz kid” co-founder of Microsoft : what is an operating system?: MS-DOS; IBM PC andTandy 2000; some of the software that Microsoft produces: BASIC, Flight Simulator, Microsoft Word, MultiPlan; producing software for the Apple Macintosh; graphical user interfaces; future of software: graphics, learning, “softer software”, artificial intelligence
16:17 [Ad] Book, “How to Make Money with Your Computer” by Paul & Sarah Edwards from Online America, Santa Monica, CA
17:37 [News] David Kohl left Ashton Tate as CEO and Chairman, replaced by Carmelo Santorro
18:53 Continuation of interview with Bill Gates: discussion of MSX for home computers; “a computer in every home”;
21:14 [Ad] Book and tapes, “How to Start and Operate a Word Processing Service” by Paul and Sarah Edwards
22:21 [Personal Computer News] Corona Data Systems introduces Gucci carrying case for Corona Portable PC; Apple Computer Inc. winter promotion to borrow Macintosh for trial use for 24 hours; Thorn EMI Computer Software Inc.’s Perfect Software family of products available for IBM PC Junior; Ashton Tate Publishing introduced book “Up and Running:Adventures of Software Entrepreneurs”
24:34 [Ad] WordStar by MicroPro at the Computer Store in Santa Monica, CA
25:30 [Ad] Book and tapes, “How to Make Money Doing Research With Your Computer” by Paul and Sarah Edwards
26:35 [Continuation of Personal Computer News] Avant Garde Publishing introduces “Design Your Own Home” with Landscape Design, Architectural Design and Interior design for Apple II, Apple II+, Apple IIe and Apple IIc; Franklin Computer Corp. filed Chapter 11 and is liquidating assets due to suit by Apple, expected to be gone within a year
27:55 [Dr. Disk answering listener letters] What is word processing?
30:20 call for listeners to write in to the show
32:04 Interview with Kai Nishi, President of Microsoft, Far East: research and development for consumer products in Far East; discussion of MSX: compatibility across machines
35:24 [Ad] Zork I, II, and III by Infocom at Simply Software, Manhattan Beach, CA
36:40 [News] Personal computer sales by 1988 to hit 30 billion $
37:42 Continuation of interview with Kai Nishi: Japanese software and probability it will cross over to the United States; entertainment consumer software; how Japanese look at software development differently; quality-conscious; lacking creativity
42:22 [David Johnson, IBM correspondent] need to store data, get to it quickly, and report on it; what is a database?
45:22 [Ad] Dollars and Sense by Monogram at Software Spot in west Los Angeles, CA
46:15 Paul and Sarah Edwards segment on legislation affecting working from home with a computer
49:39 [Ad] “Complete Startup Kit for a Home Business with Your Computer” by Paul and Sarah Edwards
51:00 [Ad] Lotus 1-2-3 by Lotus at Computer Ease, Overland
52:23 tutorial on Filevision database program by Telos Software for the Apple Macintosh
57:21 closing
59:39 end The Famous Computer Cafe 1984-11-17 Bill Gates and Kazuhiko Nishi](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QooIOEM4pck/mqdefault.jpg)