Uploaded May 2024 | Updated September 2026, 13 hours ago
Join the RULES LAWYER, @SwingRipper , and friends as we playtest the new COMMANDER and GUARDIAN classes for Pathfinder 2e!
We had six Level 7 PCs:
Ariel (fighter)
Dunbar (redeemer champion)
Ack (frontline guardian)
Alesha (commander)
Redwall (ranged guardian)
Virgash the Wardancer (warrior-muse bard)
Google Doc showing all the builds of our 6 characters:
docs.google.com/document/d/16A5m-dpizNHStXXzItE6DIc3wJ4jPQeY/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103126219751482573768&rtpof=true&sd=true
GM's character "cheat sheet": drive.google.com/file/d/1qFYmuMiYr79cvrE-XBCmFoy01KH6Uu6o/view?usp=sharing
There were some deliberate pairings:
-The Guardians, who made sure to pick none of the same options, could be compared to the Champion
-The Commander, as a "leader," could be compared to the Bard in this respect
-We wanted to see how the Commander pairs with the Fighter, with its high accuracy
I asked the group to optimize, to test the balance of the playtest classes and various options. It ended up being a melee-heavy party, with even the Bard focusing on melee. When building the characters, the players wanted to make sure the party dealt damage since the Guardians weren't strong offensively and the Commander was focused on commanding others.
The post-discussion was great, with people talking about their thoughts from the playtest and making suggestions for the final Commander and Guardian. (Redwall, one of our guardians, also had a lot of fun RP moments and says he was inspired by Face McShooty of Borderlands fame lol.)
The three fights were:
-Six L5 elementals, one of each element (Moderate)
-Party split in half, each facing L8 Weak Grappling Spirit, two L4 Weak Redcaps (each half is Severe)
-L10 Weak Young Diabolic Dragon (Severe-threat boss)
Timestamps for the stream:
0:00 Intro
6:06 Choices we made for this playtest
11:58 Our very serious adventure premise
14:01 Breaking into Paizo's Game Balance Division
19:43 COMBAT 1: 6 elementals (moderate)
56:16 Redwall's first of many fun Guardian RP moments
1:50:27 Calling forth the Spirit of Wrestling
1:55:32 COMBAT 2: The Spirit of Wrestling (severe)
3:11:26 LOL
3:32:14 The quest to Mount Remaster
3:45:50 COMBAT 3: Young Diabolic Dragon (Severe-threat boss)
4:59:56 The Power of Wrestling
5:09:02 Big turn!
5:17:55 Coda
5:19:38 Post-discussion on Commander
5:40:21 Post-discussion on Guardian
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Join the RULES LAWYER, @SwingRipper , and friends as we playtest the new COMMANDER and GUARDIAN classes for Pathfinder 2e!
We had six Level 7 PCs:
Ariel (fighter)
Dunbar (redeemer champion)
Ack (frontline guardian)
Alesha (commander)
Redwall (ranged guardian)
Virgash the Wardancer (warrior-muse bard)
Google Doc showing all the builds of our 6 characters:
docs.google.com/document/d/16A5m-dpizNHStXXzItE6DIc3wJ4jPQeY/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103126219751482573768&rtpof=true&sd=true
GM's character "cheat sheet": drive.google.com/file/d/1qFYmuMiYr79cvrE-XBCmFoy01KH6Uu6o/view?usp=sharing
There were some deliberate pairings:
-The Guardians, who made sure to pick none of the same options, could be compared to the Champion
-The Commander, as a "leader," could be compared to the Bard in this respect
-We wanted to see how the Commander pairs with the Fighter, with its high accuracy
I asked the group to optimize, to test the balance of the playtest classes and various options. It ended up being a melee-heavy party, with even the Bard focusing on melee. When building the characters, the players wanted to make sure the party dealt damage since the Guardians weren't strong offensively and the Commander was focused on commanding others.
The post-discussion was great, with people talking about their thoughts from the playtest and making suggestions for the final Commander and Guardian. (Redwall, one of our guardians, also had a lot of fun RP moments and says he was inspired by Face McShooty of Borderlands fame lol.)
The three fights were:
-Six L5 elementals, one of each element (Moderate)
-Party split in half, each facing L8 Weak Grappling Spirit, two L4 Weak Redcaps (each half is Severe)
-L10 Weak Young Diabolic Dragon (Severe-threat boss)
Timestamps for the stream:
0:00 Intro
6:06 Choices we made for this playtest
11:58 Our very serious adventure premise
14:01 Breaking into Paizo's Game Balance Division
19:43 COMBAT 1: 6 elementals (moderate)
56:16 Redwall's first of many fun Guardian RP moments
1:50:27 Calling forth the Spirit of Wrestling
1:55:32 COMBAT 2: The Spirit of Wrestling (severe)
3:11:26 LOL
3:32:14 The quest to Mount Remaster
3:45:50 COMBAT 3: Young Diabolic Dragon (Severe-threat boss)
4:59:56 The Power of Wrestling
5:09:02 Big turn!
5:17:55 Coda
5:19:38 Post-discussion on Commander
5:40:21 Post-discussion on Guardian
=============================
LIKE & SUBSCRIBE! I'm a lawyer who teaches and runs tabletop RPGs (Pathfinder, D&D, Starfinder) for kids, teens, and adults, and making videos related to TTRPGs and board games.
JOIN MY DISCORD to chat with our community and/or try the Pathfinder Beginner Box or our drop-in PF2e play system! discord.gg/YEXajaxdgq
SUPPORT MY PATREON for early access to many of my videos and access to exclusive content, and to support me! I do unpaid public-interest legal work and rely on the Patreon and private GMing.
patreon.com/theruleslawyer
For PF2E actual plays, SUBSCRIBE to my other channel, "RULES LAWYER DISCORD COMMUNITY CHANNEL": @TheRulesLawyerLivePlay
Follow me on BLUESKY: https://bsky.app/profile/ruleslawyer.bsky.social
Or on TWITTER: twitter.com/theruleslawyer1
Pick up your Pathfinder 2e book on Amazon using my affiliate links below. As an Amazon Affiliate, I earn from qualifying purchases which helps me continue doing what I love!
Pathfinder 2e Player Core: amzn.to/3FIRaAR
Pathfinder 2e GM Core: amzn.to/3FIRaAR
Pathfinder 2e Beginner Box: amzn.to/3eVsUBB
Also check out my NEW channel on pop culture, RONALD OFF THE RECORD: @RonaldOffTheRecord
