Kanavi is NOT an All-Time Top 10 Jungler! | Hot Take Point Made (LoL) @lastfreenationlol

Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

We debate whether Perkz can fix G2 as Head Coach, plus a hot take that Kanavi doesn't crack the League of Legends Jungler all-time top 10.

On this episode of Hot Take Point LoL, Thorin, Zaboutine, and Keire pick apart G2 Esports' decision to install Perkz as head coach and whether the move can rebuild the "super team" chemistry that once made Caps and company legendary. Zaboutine makes the case that Kanavi's inconsistency keeps him out of the all-time top 10 jungler conversation, while Keire argues Bin has quietly fallen out of the "elite" tier of League of Legends Top laners. The crew also breaks down Cloud9's offseason shakeup with Loki, Tactical, and YamatoCannon, debates whether the Fearless draft format is holding the best players in the world back from true greatness, and answers fan questions on Dhokla, Inspired, and the best current players who've never played at an international event.

Topics covered:
⦁ Is Kanavi actually a top 10 Jungler of all time?
⦁ Is Bin still an elite League of Legends top laner?
⦁ Can Perkz actually succeed as G2's new head coach?
⦁ Is the Fearless draft format holding the best players back?
⦁ Cloud9's roster shakeup: Loki, Tactical, and YamatoCannon join the fold
⦁ How good is Dhokla, really?
⦁ What does Inspired need around him?

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Hot Take Point Made (LoL) is a debate-focused podcast where Zaboutine, Thorin, and Keire defend bold positions about competitive League of Legends. Fast-paced arguments cover meta shifts, roster moves, and regional storylines from LEC, LCS, LCK, and LPL.

Hot Take Point Made LoL Episode 24 was filmed on July 18, 2026.

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0:00 Kanavi is not an all-time Top 10 Jungler
20:01 Bin is no longer elite
38:45 Perkz becoming the Head Coach of G2 is the best scenario for their future success
58:31 Fearless will prevent a Golden Road from ever happening + Knight is the one player who benefits from Fearless
1:17:57 Q&A

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