CLOUD9 WOULDN'T MAKE THE LEC PLAYOFFS | Hot Take Point Made (LoL) @lastfreenationlol

Uploaded March 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

Zaboutine, Thorin, and Keire debate whether Cloud9 would qualify for LEC Playoffs and if Gen.G's 3-0 loss to G2 at First Stand is the most inexcusable upset in League of Legends history.

Hot Take Point Made LoL returns with Zaboutine, Thorin, and Keire unpacking a stacked slate of takes — from a fan submission arguing SK Gaming would be top 4 in the LCS, to a deep dive on Gen.G's recurring mental collapses despite historic domestic dominance. The crew also debates whether SkewMond is a top 5 player in the world, argues the case for consolidating all top League teams into a single Korea-based super league, and closes with a quick hot take on Gala as fearless draft format's biggest victim.

Topics covered:
⦁ Would SK Gaming be top 4 in the LCS?
⦁ Is Gen.G's 3-0 loss to G2 at First Stand the most inexcusable upset in LoL history?
⦁ Why does Gen.G keep having mental collapses despite being the most dominant team in the world?
⦁ Should all top League of Legends teams move to Korea and compete in one super league?
⦁ Is SkewMond already a top 5 player in the world — not just the best Jungler in Europe?
⦁ Is GALA the biggest victim of the fearless draft format in LPL history?

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Hot Take Point Made LoL is the League of Legends hot takes show from the Last Free Nation Network. Each episode, Zaboutine, Thorin, and Keire debate submitted fan takes and drop takes of their own across the LEC, LCK, LPL, and LCS — no filter, no filler.

Episode 19 was recorded on March 25, 2026.

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0:00 - Intro
02:37 - SK Gaming would be Top 4 in the LCS + Cloud9 wouldn't make the LEC Playoffs
12:02 - Finishing the C9 take
17:25 - Gen.G's loss to G2 is the most inexcusable loss in LoL esports history
33:53 - Tier 1 LoL should just be 1 super league based in Korea
49:45 - SkewMond is a Top 5 player in the world right now
1:03:00 - GALA is the biggest victim of Fearless Draft

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