Uploaded February 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Author John Green couldn’t write. NOCD Co-founder and CEO Stephen Smith could barely leave his house. Both were suffering from OCD without proper treatment. In fact, the IOCDF found that 95% of Americans with OCD aren’t receiving the most effective treatment (Read More here: iocdf.org/ocdcarecrisis).
In this interview with Dr. Patrick McGrath, John and Stephen explain how real OCD goes far beyond the stereotypes about neatness or organization, and the consequences of it being overlooked and misunderstood: hours lost to thought spirals, avoidance of loved ones, and fear that kept them from pursuing their passions.
They also share what changed when they finally found specialized treatment for OCD. Now, they can measure how much richer life has become by the experiences they’ve regained.
At NOCD, we specialize in exposure and response prevention therapy (ERP), the most effective treatment for OCD—a treatment that can help you live a fulfilling life. If you’re ready to take your first step, book a free 15-minute call with us at learn.nocd.com/YT
Follow us on social media:
instagram.com/treatmyocd
twitter.com/treatmyocd
tiktok.com/@treatmyocd
Author John Green couldn’t write. NOCD Co-founder and CEO Stephen Smith could barely leave his house. Both were suffering from OCD without proper treatment. In fact, the IOCDF found that 95% of Americans with OCD aren’t receiving the most effective treatment (Read More here: iocdf.org/ocdcarecrisis).
In this interview with Dr. Patrick McGrath, John and Stephen explain how real OCD goes far beyond the stereotypes about neatness or organization, and the consequences of it being overlooked and misunderstood: hours lost to thought spirals, avoidance of loved ones, and fear that kept them from pursuing their passions.
They also share what changed when they finally found specialized treatment for OCD. Now, they can measure how much richer life has become by the experiences they’ve regained.
At NOCD, we specialize in exposure and response prevention therapy (ERP), the most effective treatment for OCD—a treatment that can help you live a fulfilling life. If you’re ready to take your first step, book a free 15-minute call with us at learn.nocd.com/YT
Follow us on social media:
instagram.com/treatmyocd
twitter.com/treatmyocd
tiktok.com/@treatmyocd










