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From Battlefield to Breakthrough: Jared Ogden’s Mission to Revolutionize Training
In this week’s Team Never Quit episode, Marcus & Melanie welcome Jared Ogden, CEO of Triumph Systems and former U.S. Navy SEAL, to the show.
Jared’s remarkable journey from leading missions in Afghanistan to leading one of the most innovative training companies in the country is a story of resilience, vision, and transformation. Drawing from real-world tactical experience, Jared created Triumph Systems and the Brass Training System with a singular goal: to enhance the training and preparation of military and law enforcement personnel.
In this episode, Jared shares how instinctual decisions made during deployments shaped his approach to developing cutting-edge training tools that emphasize life-saving decision-making under pressure. He reflects on his transition from being the “arrow” on the battlefield to becoming the “archer” — equipping today’s warriors with the tools they need to succeed. Jared also discusses how Triumph Systems bridges the gap between elite training and accessibility, offering solutions that don’t require massive budgets or facilities.
If you’re passionate about leadership, innovation, or serving those who protect us, you won’t want to miss this inspiring conversation with a true trailblazer who’s changing the future of tactical training.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• My parents encouraged the kids to find what they’re interested in, to be productive and to live a productive, rewarding life. (5:50).
• The more you can overlap what you’re interested in, and what you’re good at, with what someone will pay you to do, the more successful you will be. (6:05)
At a very early age, I knew what I wanted to do when I grew up. I knew that I wanted to be a Navy SEAL. (7:26)
• I was the honor graduate for my Leatherneck class. (22:49)
• I was yelling at people, and barking out things and orders. Dan walked up to me nonchalantly and said “Jared, calmness is contagious, just talk.” I’ll never forget that. (36:54)
• [During the] first turnover op between us and 7, Dan stepped on a pressure plate. Honestly, he should’ve died that day, but there was a tremendous effort [to help him]. (37:23)
• Do the right thing. In that case, the right thing landed me in a spot on this television show for 2 seasons. (48:08)
• We gotta figure out who we’re gonna take. Problem is there’s no targets, nothing to shoot. So, we take water bottles, piss in them, put ‘em on a fence. And the first handful of guys, commandos, that could shout those from 50 yards – those are the guys that rolled with us. (52:14)
• I’m a warfighter. I’m not an engineer. But along the journey I met some guys who were product engineers. [We developed] a recreational division and a government division – making turning target systems and other targets and software, making people more proficient with their firearms. (53:33)
• Decision-making is one of the most important metrics of people who carry firearms professionally. (61:23)
• The one common ingredient that I have for everything that I’ve done in my life is to do your best. (66:24)
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From Battlefield to Breakthrough: Jared Ogden’s Mission to Revolutionize Training
In this week’s Team Never Quit episode, Marcus & Melanie welcome Jared Ogden, CEO of Triumph Systems and former U.S. Navy SEAL, to the show.
Jared’s remarkable journey from leading missions in Afghanistan to leading one of the most innovative training companies in the country is a story of resilience, vision, and transformation. Drawing from real-world tactical experience, Jared created Triumph Systems and the Brass Training System with a singular goal: to enhance the training and preparation of military and law enforcement personnel.
In this episode, Jared shares how instinctual decisions made during deployments shaped his approach to developing cutting-edge training tools that emphasize life-saving decision-making under pressure. He reflects on his transition from being the “arrow” on the battlefield to becoming the “archer” — equipping today’s warriors with the tools they need to succeed. Jared also discusses how Triumph Systems bridges the gap between elite training and accessibility, offering solutions that don’t require massive budgets or facilities.
If you’re passionate about leadership, innovation, or serving those who protect us, you won’t want to miss this inspiring conversation with a true trailblazer who’s changing the future of tactical training.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• My parents encouraged the kids to find what they’re interested in, to be productive and to live a productive, rewarding life. (5:50).
• The more you can overlap what you’re interested in, and what you’re good at, with what someone will pay you to do, the more successful you will be. (6:05)
At a very early age, I knew what I wanted to do when I grew up. I knew that I wanted to be a Navy SEAL. (7:26)
• I was the honor graduate for my Leatherneck class. (22:49)
• I was yelling at people, and barking out things and orders. Dan walked up to me nonchalantly and said “Jared, calmness is contagious, just talk.” I’ll never forget that. (36:54)
• [During the] first turnover op between us and 7, Dan stepped on a pressure plate. Honestly, he should’ve died that day, but there was a tremendous effort [to help him]. (37:23)
• Do the right thing. In that case, the right thing landed me in a spot on this television show for 2 seasons. (48:08)
• We gotta figure out who we’re gonna take. Problem is there’s no targets, nothing to shoot. So, we take water bottles, piss in them, put ‘em on a fence. And the first handful of guys, commandos, that could shout those from 50 yards – those are the guys that rolled with us. (52:14)
• I’m a warfighter. I’m not an engineer. But along the journey I met some guys who were product engineers. [We developed] a recreational division and a government division – making turning target systems and other targets and software, making people more proficient with their firearms. (53:33)
• Decision-making is one of the most important metrics of people who carry firearms professionally. (61:23)
• The one common ingredient that I have for everything that I’ve done in my life is to do your best. (66:24)
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![STEVE KAPLAN: Rtd Navy SEAL, Owner of Trident Adventures - Helicopter Jumps, Scuba Diving, & More
Conquering Fear and Leading with Courage: Insights from Retired Navy SEAL Stephen Kaplan
Welcome to this week’s episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast, where Marcus & Melanie Luttrell dive deep into the realms of leadership, courage, and strategic thinking with an extraordinary guest. Today, we are honored to have Stephen Kaplan, a retired Navy SEAL, keynote speaker, business consultant, and leadership expert. Stephen has dedicated over 20 years to mastering tactics, organizational leadership, strategic thinking, and professional team building. After his illustrious military career as a Navy SEAL, he has been transforming corporations, teams, and individuals through his insights and expertise.
Stephen shares his perspective on what it truly means to be courageous, emphasizing that being “fearless” is an illusion. True courage is about facing and conquering fears.
Steve’s adventure business, Trident Adventures is located in Honolulu, Hawaii. The company specializes in leadership and team-building experiences that offer an adventure of a lifetime. Learn how these adventures provide teams with a unique edge in leadership development.
Whether you’re looking to enhance your leadership skills, build stronger teams, or simply get inspired by a story of transformation, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways.
Resources and Links:
TridentAdventures.com
LinkedIn: Stephen Kaplan
In this episode you will hear:
• After I Graduated High School, I went to Bible College to be a Pastor. I felt was that’s where I was supposed to be. That was calling on my life. (5:32)
• [Marcus] Q: What was the one thing in BUDS that got you?
A: I put a stick through my forearm on the obstacle course. (15:34)
• [On the obstacle course] my heart’s pumping like crazy. I’m excited. I’m in BUDS. There’s 300 guys and I’m thinking I’m gonna be the guy that doesn’t quit, and I throw myself over the wall, and when I hop off the other end of it, I hear a snap. (17:06)
• The next obstacle was the high wall with the rope, so I go to grab it, and my hand doesn’t work. I look at my arm and there was a big stick sticking through. (17:28)
• I didn’t know how to swim when I signed up. (21:21)
• You’ll become a good swimmer at BUDS, for sure, but you won’t become a good runner at BUDS. You’ll get worse. (22:34)
• I blew out my ear drum really bad. They had to cut my ear off, and replace the membrane in my ear with a skin graft. (26:54)
• On the second day of hell week, I stepped in a hole in the sand and I hyperextended my knee and tore a bunch of stuff in my knee and ankle. Now I’ve got a bum leg, I’m in day 2 of hell week, and I had such a bad infection in my ear, that it actually rotted a hole in my tympanic membrane. (28:20)
• I do not look like the type of person that should be lifting the type of weights I can lift. (50:55)
• [After having shortness of breath and chest pain for days, I was commanded to go to the ER] They do all the x-rays and all the blood tests, and the doctor says, “How long have you had these symptoms?” “5 days, I think.” “You’re supposed to be dead.” (55:47)
• I had to have 2 nurses hold me up, because if laid down, I’d pass out and die. My friends came by to say goodbye. I ended up not dying. (56:26)
• I was a SEAL tech advisor for Hawaii 5-O, Magnum PI and a couple of other shows. (58:44)
• Everybody has fear, Team guys have fear. We’re not fearless. What we do is that we overcome our fear because we have courage. Courage is not the lack of fear, it’s what you do in the face of fear. (62:35)
• We’re the only operation [Trident Adventures] – I think in the world – that’s allowed to have civilians jump out of a helicopter into the ocean or a body of water. (63:28)
• I used to love free diving, but I lost most of my lungs when I had the pulmonary embolism, so my breath hold now is embarrassing – maybe 30 seconds. (64:32)
• [Marcus] In SEAL teams, we will name something funny like Seal Transport Device (STD). 65:11)
• I choose to take my previous chapter of my life, and thru my entrepreneurship and my company and how I conduct myself. Through my integrity and my character I want to be that guy that makes people look at the teams in a higher regard because of how I carry myself. (73:33)
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![JASON REDMAN: The SEAL Who Survived A Point Blank Ambush & Rose to Become a Bestselling Author
The Trident: Leadership Lessons from the Battlefield to the Boardroom
This week, Marcus, Melanie welcome an extraordinary warrior, leader, and encourager—Jason Redman, retired Navy SEAL, bestselling author, and one of the most respected voices on resilience and overcoming adversity.
Jason served 21 years in the U.S. Navy, including 11 years as an enlisted SEAL and 10 years as a SEAL officer, leading combat operations across the globe. His career is a study in grit, redemption, and relentless dedication—from early deployments in Central and South America to commanding SEAL teams in Iraq and Afghanistan.
But Jason’s life shifted forever on September 13, 2007, when he was acting as Assault Force Commander during a mission in Iraq. An enemy ambush erupted. Jason was shot eight times, including a devastating gunshot wound to the face. His team fought through, secured the target, and saved his life.
What followed was a recovery few could imagine: 40 surgeries, months in the hospital, and a battle not just for survival, but for identity, leadership, and purpose. Jason didn’t just recover—he returned to active duty and continued serving until retirement in 2013. His courage, valor, and leadership earned him the Purple Heart, Bronze Star with Valor, and the respect of warriors around the world.
Why This Episode Matters
Jason Redman has become one of the most powerful voices in America on resilience. His life is proof that the human spirit can rise, rebuild, and lead again—no matter the setback. Whether you’re fighting through a personal battle, searching for purpose, or simply need a reminder of what true grit looks like, Jason’s story will challenge, encourage, and strengthen you.
In this episode you will hear:
• The very first book I bought about the SEAL teams – I was in a truck stop and there was a case of books you could buy for a buck. There was a book about SEAL operations in Vietnam. Four years later, I checked into SEAL Team 4. (6:22)
• I was about 95lbs and 5’ tall at 15, and that recruiter took one look at me, and was like: “You are not what the SEALS are looking for.” (7:40)
• There are way more operational opportunities for enlisted SEALS than there are for officers. (20:44)
• Seaman to Admiral takes individuals who don’t have a degree. They send them to school. It’s an accelerated program. You’re part of the ROTC program. You commission out of that and you come back as a SEAL officer. (24:02)
• We were all bleeding so bad, and it created this mist in the helicopter of blood. The entire inside of the helicopter was coated in blood. (43:06)
• My recovery time took 4 years and 40 surgeries to put me back together. (43:38)
• Be thankful for the hardships you have in life and for hard things that happen because I think they set you up for success in other things. (43:48)
• Me failing as a leader was probably the hardest thing I’ve ever had to come back from. (43:56)
• Lead yourself, Lead others, Lead always. (44:39)
• [Marcus] When he was in the hospital, he wrote on a bright orange piece of paper and tacked it on the door. And he wrote this letter saying “Don’t come in here feeling sorry for me. I will overcome.” (48:48)
• It’s amazing when you’re around Christians who have an appreciation for the world and a love of Christ and a love of humanity. (51:07
• These are questions I like to ask veterans: “What do you want to accomplish? What is your American dream? (53:52)
• Whether you’re starting your own business, or you’re a leader in a business, we need you. This country needs you. (64:47)
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![BRINGING TEXAS TO SAN DIEGO W/ FORMER GOV. RICK PERRY
Today, we bring an unconventional podcast to the Team Never Quit table. We are in San Diego and joining Marcus, Melanie, and Hunter is our favorite Texan, former Governor Rick Perry. Governor Perry brings an incredible knowledge of Texas history, which ties right in to Marcus’ idea of adding a few minutes in each week’s podcast to Texas Tidbits, where we talk about historical info, fun facts, Texas recommendations, food suggestions, Texas etiquette, etc. And who better to kick off Texas Tidbits than the longest serving governor in Texas history. We talk Texas Tidbits, and take a deep dive of the first time Marcus and the Governor met, exactly 17 years ago in San Diego.
In this episode you will hear:
• [Marcus] Longest serving governor in Texas history, then Secretary of Energy. (4:30)
• Agriculture has an inordinate impact on me, as it does on the state of Texas. (12:08)
• The greatest governor in Texas history. Nobody even comes in a close second, in my opinion – Sam Houston. (14:02)
• [Sam Houston] could probably have been elected President of the United States, had he stayed in the race in 1860. And had he won, I don’t think we would’ve had a civil war. (14:24)
• [Sam Houston] brought Texas into the nation. (15:33)
• When he left his house, [Sam Houston’s mother said to him: “And remember, my son, the door of the cottage will be forever open to a courageous man of honor, but it will be closed forever to a coward.” (16:22)
• The second greatest governor, in my opinion – Dolph Briscoe. (18:41)
• He [Dolph Briscoe] helped put into play the Farm to Market Road system, and helped put into place the Screwworm Eradication Program. (19:19)
• Eisenhower put into place the Interstate Highway System. For every 5 miles, you have to have a straight 1mile piece of road. (22:42)
• Governing’s not hard: Don’t overtax, don’t over regulate, don’t over litigate, and have a skilled workforce. (24:52)
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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. BRINGING TEXAS TO SAN DIEGO W/ FORMER GOV. RICK PERRY](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CW2R0MzrJd8/mqdefault.jpg)
![COLE LYLE: Marine Vet & Founder of Kayas K9s, on Service Animal Advocacy & The PAWS Act
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie are honored to have Cole Lyle, a passionate advocate for veterans’ well-being and the driving force behind Mission Roll Call and the PAWS Act. Cole speaks of the experiences that led him to become a tireless advocate for veterans, including the inception of Mission Roll Call, shedding light on its mission to connect veterans with resources, support, and a community that understands their unique challenges.
He also has been actively championing the significance of the PAWS (Puppies Assisting Wounded Servicemembers) Act, which aims to provide service dogs to veterans struggling with physical and mental health challenges.
Marcus and Melanie extend their heartfelt gratitude to Cole for his unwavering dedication to supporting veterans through Mission Roll Call and the PAWS Act.
If you’d like to learn more or get involved, visit:
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www.kk9s.org
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In this episode you will hear:
• I’m a 7th generation Texan (3:46)
• I actually joined the military straight out of High School. (7:03)
• I was an Eagle Scout. (8:11)
• When you enlist, they give you a rank for it [Being an Eagle Scout]. (8:27)
• I didn’t have a positive male influence except for my scout masters and football coaches. (9:11)
• There’s a tangible benefit of having a group of people that come from all walks of life. You come from such diverse backgrounds, you forget all your differences and your bullshit to accomplish a mission. (10:35)
• 67% of Gen-Z does not know a veteran or someone on active duty. (11:56)
• That [Marine] uniform has gotten so many guys and girls. (15:05)
• The majority of casualties in GWOT came from fuel convoys. (17:15)
• Men and women get out, and they have to learn how to be an adult again. (25:53)
• One night I spiraled down about that far away from being a suicide statistic. Another marine came and banged on my door. I was actually surprised that him banging on the door didn’t jerk my finger. (28:42)
• My mindset went from ”I have nothing” to “I have the opportunity to do anything.” (29:05)
• 2 Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but of power, love, and self-discipline. (29:16)
• She [Kaya) was specifically trained to recognize when I was having a nightmare and she’d jump on the bed and lick my face, wake me up, and stay with me until my heartrate went down. Or she would recognize when I was having an anxiety attack and would do animal assisted intervention, where she’d get up in my face and distract me to keep the snowball effect from getting worse. (31:38)
• You may have kids, you may have a wife that love you very much, but there’s something not wired right and you’re going down this path, so having a dog there you look down at the dog and think “this dog loves me.” (34:42)
• Our connection with dogs is a lot like our relationship with God. (36:14)
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We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. COLE LYLE: Marine Vet & Founder of Kayas K9s, on Service Animal Advocacy & The PAWS Act](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/CaqO2GdqEp4/mqdefault.jpg)
![Train the Way We Fight with Navy Special Warfare Officer, Todd Deghetto
TODD DEGHETTO
Retired Navy Captain who spent 30 years in Naval Special Warfare (NSW) as a SEAL Officer
You get real good at completely cutting your head off from the rest of your body – No feelings, no emotion, and no pain. I truly didn’t start processing stuff until after I was done. • When things are going sideways is when people show their true colors. • When I returned, God put it on my heart to mentor the next generation. • I’m a leadership coach & mentor for the University of Tennessee’s MBA program. I may not have the business expertise, but I’ve got a lot of leadership experience. • The only way you’re gonna get better is to be able to say “this is mine.” This I made that decision, and this is why I made that decision. • We learn more from our mistakes than we ever do when things go right. • I took me several weeks after I returned – and all of a sudden I woke up one day feeling like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders. • All the explosives, the blasts, the mortars, the rockets, the charges, the AC4’s – the damage done to the brain is devastating. • The healing journey has been the hardest thing for me. Part of that journey is not quitting om my family. • [In military leadership] We’re very good at controlling everything we can control. • There’s psychedelics treatment out there to really help us guys. My initial thought was “no way”, but it truly helped me.mp3″ ]
Need a clear decision-maker in high stress military operations critical to the defense of the United States? Then this week’s Team Never Quit guest, Todd Deghetto, is your man.
After 30 years as a Navy SEAL officer in Naval Special Warfare, Todd’s current mission is to develop future leaders in mental toughness, discipline, & building collaborative teams. Todd, Markus, and Morgan share an engaging conversation including actual mission details, it’s personal & mental ramifications, and the steps to recovery. Everyone on Todd’s team has a purpose.
In this episode you will hear:
• It doesn’t matter what people think about you. Do what’s right, regardless of the consequences. If you lose friends over it, they weren’t true friends.
• Having a dad as a New Jersey State Trooper, I learned about the evil in this world, and I learned about honor – doing what’s right.
• That’s the nice thing about diving without O2. If you gotta die, that’s the way to go, because you just fall asleep.
• [In combat] You get real good at completely cutting your head off from the rest of your body – No feelings, no emotion, and no pain. I truly didn’t start processing stuff until after I was done.
• When things are going sideways is when people show their true colors.
• When I returned, God put it on my heart to mentor the next generation.
• I’m a leadership coach & mentor for the University of Tennessee’s MBA program. I may not have the business expertise, but I’ve got a lot of leadership experience.
• The only way you’re gonna get better is to be able to say “this is mine.” This I made that decision, and this is why I made that decision.
• We learn more from our mistakes than we ever do when things go right.
• I took me several weeks after I returned – and all of a sudden I woke up one day feeling like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders.
• All the explosives, the blasts, the mortars, the rockets, the charges, the AC4’s – the damage done to the brain is devastating.
• The healing journey has been the hardest thing for me. Part of that journey is not quitting om my family.
• [In military leadership] We’re very good at controlling everything we can control.
• There’s psychedelics treatment out there to really help us guys. My initial thought was “no way”, but it truly helped me.
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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. Train the Way We Fight with Navy Special Warfare Officer, Todd Deghetto](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/D-0N2fUdJTk/mqdefault.jpg)


![JORDAN HARBINGER: Wall Street Lawyer, Successful Podcaster, FBI Ally & Kidnapping Escapee
What an engaging and compelling guest Marcus brings to the table in this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast. Jordan Harbinger, one of the most successful podcasters in the world, reveals his crafty (and illegal) but brilliant, stealthy methods for tapping into land line telephone conversations, and circumventing credit card machines in his early teenage years. While working out of the country, he details the experience of being kidnapped twice.
His inquisitive mind was fascinated by the internet at an early age, and later became a Wall Street lawyer, followed by launching The Jordan Harbinger Show, where he deconstructs the playbooks of the most successful people on earth and shares their strategies.
These days, Jordan’s biggest motivation is to help people succeed by teaching them to think better.
In this episode you will hear:
• When I was a kid, I wasn’t exactly inspirational to anyone. (4:13)
• I didn’t have any money and listening to phone conversations and wiretapping got really interesting. I did that with cell phones, line pairs, and the green boxes on the side of the road. (7:13)
• Listening to adults talk when they don’t know kids are around is completely different experience. (7:33)
• [As a kid] you learn that adults have feelings, and problems just like you do. (10:25)
• Are all adults just children that are winging it? Kind of – in a lot of ways. (12:25)
• I learned to convince people to do things that I probably shouldn’t have convinced them to do. (15:55)
• One of the things that I did that I got caught for was to go into a cell phone store’s dumpster at night and take the duplicate receipts from a carbon printer and use that information to program phones. (21:04)
• I figured out how the credit card payment system worked at a pizza chain and you could use a number that would work in their machine and the machine didn’t reconcile the transactions until Friday’s. (22:12)
• If there was a girl that I liked I would figure out what she liked by hacking into her computer. (27:46)
• The coolest thing that I ever did was to help the FBI catch sexual predators. (36:09)
• [In Mexico City] “Am I getting kidnapped right now?” “No, that can’t be it.” “Then I thought why can’t that be it?” I couldn’t open the door. (44:55)
• Later when I lived in Panama, the same thing would happen, and dudes would get in the cab and say you’re going to the bank to take out as much money as you can, or we’re gonna stab you, or shoot you. (54:10)
• Two of the most addicting and destructive things in the world are heroin and a steady paycheck. (57:43)
• Now I’ve got kids and the nightmares are outsourced. (62:27)
• I try to teach people how to think better. (63:17)
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