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In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie are honored to have Cole Lyle, a passionate advocate for veterans’ well-being and the driving force behind Mission Roll Call and the PAWS Act. Cole speaks of the experiences that led him to become a tireless advocate for veterans, including the inception of Mission Roll Call, shedding light on its mission to connect veterans with resources, support, and a community that understands their unique challenges.
He also has been actively championing the significance of the PAWS (Puppies Assisting Wounded Servicemembers) Act, which aims to provide service dogs to veterans struggling with physical and mental health challenges.
Marcus and Melanie extend their heartfelt gratitude to Cole for his unwavering dedication to supporting veterans through Mission Roll Call and the PAWS Act.
If you’d like to learn more or get involved, visit:
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In this episode you will hear:
• I’m a 7th generation Texan (3:46)
• I actually joined the military straight out of High School. (7:03)
• I was an Eagle Scout. (8:11)
• When you enlist, they give you a rank for it [Being an Eagle Scout]. (8:27)
• I didn’t have a positive male influence except for my scout masters and football coaches. (9:11)
• There’s a tangible benefit of having a group of people that come from all walks of life. You come from such diverse backgrounds, you forget all your differences and your bullshit to accomplish a mission. (10:35)
• 67% of Gen-Z does not know a veteran or someone on active duty. (11:56)
• That [Marine] uniform has gotten so many guys and girls. (15:05)
• The majority of casualties in GWOT came from fuel convoys. (17:15)
• Men and women get out, and they have to learn how to be an adult again. (25:53)
• One night I spiraled down about that far away from being a suicide statistic. Another marine came and banged on my door. I was actually surprised that him banging on the door didn’t jerk my finger. (28:42)
• My mindset went from ”I have nothing” to “I have the opportunity to do anything.” (29:05)
• 2 Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but of power, love, and self-discipline. (29:16)
• She [Kaya) was specifically trained to recognize when I was having a nightmare and she’d jump on the bed and lick my face, wake me up, and stay with me until my heartrate went down. Or she would recognize when I was having an anxiety attack and would do animal assisted intervention, where she’d get up in my face and distract me to keep the snowball effect from getting worse. (31:38)
• You may have kids, you may have a wife that love you very much, but there’s something not wired right and you’re going down this path, so having a dog there you look down at the dog and think “this dog loves me.” (34:42)
• Our connection with dogs is a lot like our relationship with God. (36:14)
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About TNQ Podcast:
Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same.
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie are honored to have Cole Lyle, a passionate advocate for veterans’ well-being and the driving force behind Mission Roll Call and the PAWS Act. Cole speaks of the experiences that led him to become a tireless advocate for veterans, including the inception of Mission Roll Call, shedding light on its mission to connect veterans with resources, support, and a community that understands their unique challenges.
He also has been actively championing the significance of the PAWS (Puppies Assisting Wounded Servicemembers) Act, which aims to provide service dogs to veterans struggling with physical and mental health challenges.
Marcus and Melanie extend their heartfelt gratitude to Cole for his unwavering dedication to supporting veterans through Mission Roll Call and the PAWS Act.
If you’d like to learn more or get involved, visit:
missionrollcall.org
kk9s.org
Sponsors:
– GoodRX.com/TNQ
– NavyFederal.org
– Uncommongoods.com/TNQ
In this episode you will hear:
• I’m a 7th generation Texan (3:46)
• I actually joined the military straight out of High School. (7:03)
• I was an Eagle Scout. (8:11)
• When you enlist, they give you a rank for it [Being an Eagle Scout]. (8:27)
• I didn’t have a positive male influence except for my scout masters and football coaches. (9:11)
• There’s a tangible benefit of having a group of people that come from all walks of life. You come from such diverse backgrounds, you forget all your differences and your bullshit to accomplish a mission. (10:35)
• 67% of Gen-Z does not know a veteran or someone on active duty. (11:56)
• That [Marine] uniform has gotten so many guys and girls. (15:05)
• The majority of casualties in GWOT came from fuel convoys. (17:15)
• Men and women get out, and they have to learn how to be an adult again. (25:53)
• One night I spiraled down about that far away from being a suicide statistic. Another marine came and banged on my door. I was actually surprised that him banging on the door didn’t jerk my finger. (28:42)
• My mindset went from ”I have nothing” to “I have the opportunity to do anything.” (29:05)
• 2 Timothy 1:7 For God has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but of power, love, and self-discipline. (29:16)
• She [Kaya) was specifically trained to recognize when I was having a nightmare and she’d jump on the bed and lick my face, wake me up, and stay with me until my heartrate went down. Or she would recognize when I was having an anxiety attack and would do animal assisted intervention, where she’d get up in my face and distract me to keep the snowball effect from getting worse. (31:38)
• You may have kids, you may have a wife that love you very much, but there’s something not wired right and you’re going down this path, so having a dog there you look down at the dog and think “this dog loves me.” (34:42)
• Our connection with dogs is a lot like our relationship with God. (36:14)
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Audio Engineer - Joey Garza
Video Editor - John Fritzsching
—
About TNQ Podcast:
Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same.
![Train the Way We Fight with Navy Special Warfare Officer, Todd Deghetto
TODD DEGHETTO
Retired Navy Captain who spent 30 years in Naval Special Warfare (NSW) as a SEAL Officer
You get real good at completely cutting your head off from the rest of your body – No feelings, no emotion, and no pain. I truly didn’t start processing stuff until after I was done. • When things are going sideways is when people show their true colors. • When I returned, God put it on my heart to mentor the next generation. • I’m a leadership coach & mentor for the University of Tennessee’s MBA program. I may not have the business expertise, but I’ve got a lot of leadership experience. • The only way you’re gonna get better is to be able to say “this is mine.” This I made that decision, and this is why I made that decision. • We learn more from our mistakes than we ever do when things go right. • I took me several weeks after I returned – and all of a sudden I woke up one day feeling like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders. • All the explosives, the blasts, the mortars, the rockets, the charges, the AC4’s – the damage done to the brain is devastating. • The healing journey has been the hardest thing for me. Part of that journey is not quitting om my family. • [In military leadership] We’re very good at controlling everything we can control. • There’s psychedelics treatment out there to really help us guys. My initial thought was “no way”, but it truly helped me.mp3″ ]
Need a clear decision-maker in high stress military operations critical to the defense of the United States? Then this week’s Team Never Quit guest, Todd Deghetto, is your man.
After 30 years as a Navy SEAL officer in Naval Special Warfare, Todd’s current mission is to develop future leaders in mental toughness, discipline, & building collaborative teams. Todd, Markus, and Morgan share an engaging conversation including actual mission details, it’s personal & mental ramifications, and the steps to recovery. Everyone on Todd’s team has a purpose.
In this episode you will hear:
• It doesn’t matter what people think about you. Do what’s right, regardless of the consequences. If you lose friends over it, they weren’t true friends.
• Having a dad as a New Jersey State Trooper, I learned about the evil in this world, and I learned about honor – doing what’s right.
• That’s the nice thing about diving without O2. If you gotta die, that’s the way to go, because you just fall asleep.
• [In combat] You get real good at completely cutting your head off from the rest of your body – No feelings, no emotion, and no pain. I truly didn’t start processing stuff until after I was done.
• When things are going sideways is when people show their true colors.
• When I returned, God put it on my heart to mentor the next generation.
• I’m a leadership coach & mentor for the University of Tennessee’s MBA program. I may not have the business expertise, but I’ve got a lot of leadership experience.
• The only way you’re gonna get better is to be able to say “this is mine.” This I made that decision, and this is why I made that decision.
• We learn more from our mistakes than we ever do when things go right.
• I took me several weeks after I returned – and all of a sudden I woke up one day feeling like a huge weight had been lifted off my shoulders.
• All the explosives, the blasts, the mortars, the rockets, the charges, the AC4’s – the damage done to the brain is devastating.
• The healing journey has been the hardest thing for me. Part of that journey is not quitting om my family.
• [In military leadership] We’re very good at controlling everything we can control.
• There’s psychedelics treatment out there to really help us guys. My initial thought was “no way”, but it truly helped me.
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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. Train the Way We Fight with Navy Special Warfare Officer, Todd Deghetto](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/D-0N2fUdJTk/mqdefault.jpg)


![JORDAN HARBINGER: Wall Street Lawyer, Successful Podcaster, FBI Ally & Kidnapping Escapee
What an engaging and compelling guest Marcus brings to the table in this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast. Jordan Harbinger, one of the most successful podcasters in the world, reveals his crafty (and illegal) but brilliant, stealthy methods for tapping into land line telephone conversations, and circumventing credit card machines in his early teenage years. While working out of the country, he details the experience of being kidnapped twice.
His inquisitive mind was fascinated by the internet at an early age, and later became a Wall Street lawyer, followed by launching The Jordan Harbinger Show, where he deconstructs the playbooks of the most successful people on earth and shares their strategies.
These days, Jordan’s biggest motivation is to help people succeed by teaching them to think better.
In this episode you will hear:
• When I was a kid, I wasn’t exactly inspirational to anyone. (4:13)
• I didn’t have any money and listening to phone conversations and wiretapping got really interesting. I did that with cell phones, line pairs, and the green boxes on the side of the road. (7:13)
• Listening to adults talk when they don’t know kids are around is completely different experience. (7:33)
• [As a kid] you learn that adults have feelings, and problems just like you do. (10:25)
• Are all adults just children that are winging it? Kind of – in a lot of ways. (12:25)
• I learned to convince people to do things that I probably shouldn’t have convinced them to do. (15:55)
• One of the things that I did that I got caught for was to go into a cell phone store’s dumpster at night and take the duplicate receipts from a carbon printer and use that information to program phones. (21:04)
• I figured out how the credit card payment system worked at a pizza chain and you could use a number that would work in their machine and the machine didn’t reconcile the transactions until Friday’s. (22:12)
• If there was a girl that I liked I would figure out what she liked by hacking into her computer. (27:46)
• The coolest thing that I ever did was to help the FBI catch sexual predators. (36:09)
• [In Mexico City] “Am I getting kidnapped right now?” “No, that can’t be it.” “Then I thought why can’t that be it?” I couldn’t open the door. (44:55)
• Later when I lived in Panama, the same thing would happen, and dudes would get in the cab and say you’re going to the bank to take out as much money as you can, or we’re gonna stab you, or shoot you. (54:10)
• Two of the most addicting and destructive things in the world are heroin and a steady paycheck. (57:43)
• Now I’ve got kids and the nightmares are outsourced. (62:27)
• I try to teach people how to think better. (63:17)
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We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. JORDAN HARBINGER: Wall Street Lawyer, Successful Podcaster, FBI Ally & Kidnapping Escapee](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EIp-XAd6kZE/mqdefault.jpg)
![KEITH NIGHTINGALE: Ret. Army Colonel who Served 2 Tours in Vietnam, Author of Phoenix Rising
If ever there was a man with more military experience than almost anybody, Keith Nightingale is the one. What an incredible military resume he shares with Marcus in this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast. From serving in the U.S. Army for almost 3 decades to serving in 2 tours in Vietnam, to serving as the Director of the Department of Defense (DOD) Counter-drug Task Force in Latin America, which was able to apprehend Pablo Escobar.
He developed the present Army Ranger Training Program and initiated the Snowcap Model Training Program for DEA personnel assigned to operational missions in Latin America. His experiences included the liberation of Grenada and Panama and a variety of special operations missions. All of the above doesn’t even touch the surface of Mr. Nightingale’s military experience, not to mention a myriad of awards and honors. Listen in as he and Marcus engage in a lively discussion about all of his military experiences.
In this episode you will hear:
My family has had some association with the military since the pilgrims, literally.
I’m an only child. My parents were old and had arguments.
We would give the enemy the maximum opportunity to give his life for his country.
[In Vietnam] in the course of less than 24 hours, we went from 450 people to 32 people.
[In battle] you don’t fear, you focus.
Life is luck and timing.
There’s nothing that I did that was planned for before it occurred.
Normandy is kinda the Arkansas of France – there hasn’t been a lot of development going on there.
We created a task force specifically focused to bring U.S. assets to support the Columbian government in getting [Pablo] Escobar.
You don’t think about what might happen you just do what you have to do. It’s later that you get into reflection.
In life, if something is gonna happen, it’s gonna happen. There’s nothing you can do to control it.
Do your best when you have a chance to do something.
You can put 4 people on the same battle sight fighting the same fight, less than 20 meters apart, and they’ve got 4 different views of what actually happened – and every one of them is true.
My legacy is the bridge between what the vet said and what the active duty sees and appreciates.
Be good to people.
Do the best you can when you get a chance to do it, because you may not have another chance.
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About TNQ Podcast:
Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same.
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About TNQ Podcast:
Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. KEITH NIGHTINGALE: Ret. Army Colonel who Served 2 Tours in Vietnam, Author of Phoenix Rising](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EgsC6vwuufM/mqdefault.jpg)
![RANDY BEAUSOLEIL: What it Takes to Be A Navy SEAL, Operation Blue Spoon, The Invasion of Panama
Join us for this week’s exhilarating episode of the Team Never Quit Podcast as Marcus sits down with Randy Beausoleil, a true American hero and former Navy SEAL of 34 years. In this gripping conversation, Randy shares insights from his remarkable mission to Panama, where his mission was to take down dictator and drug lord, Manuel Noriega, by blowing up his boat. Listening to Randy’s compelling, firsthand story offers a glimpse into the mindset that defines a warrior.
Discover the principles of teamwork, adaptability, unwavering determination, and the mental toughness required to navigate high-stakes situations.
Listening to Randy reveals insights into the discipline, focus, and resilience that set Navy SEALs apart, and be inspired by how these principles can be applied to everyday challenges.
Unleash Your Inner Warrior: Tap into your own inner warrior spirit. Whether you’re facing personal challenges or striving for self-improvement, Randy’s insights provide a roadmap for unlocking your full potential.
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In this episode you will hear:
• You’re gonna make it no matter what happens. You just have to believe. And the Navy doesn’t train that into you. (12:45)
• In order to make it through BUDS, you gotta believe you can do it. (13:32)
• People quit when they don’t believe. (15:48)
• The work is being miserable, cold, wet, tired. You still have to perform. (18:37)
• Hell week is what separates us from the rest of them [other Special Forces]. It gives you a weird mental ability that no other training can give you. (19:50)
• Everybody compares themselves to SEALS. SEALS don’t compare themselves to anybody else. (20:35)
• We have to train so hard that no matter what we do, we’re way better at it than anyone else. (23:59)
• When we do actually go into combat, combat is easier than the training. 24:09)
• My desire was for their best interest [as an instructor]. We’re gonna train hard, but we’re gonna stick together. You need to know why you’re doing what you’re doing. (29:46)
• You need to be training everybody that is below you to replace you. (34:59)
• As the leader, I’ll help who needs help. (37:29)
• I don’t want to talk specific tactics because there’s still guys on active duty deploying those tactics. I don’t want the enemy to hear it. (50:22)
• [Marcus] If you close your eyes and drop underwater, you know how many kicks it takes to get 100 yards. (51:46)
• Okay, this is why we’ve been doing what we’re doing. We’re getting on the C141, and that night, we’re getting in the water and we are diving on these boats. (67:05)
• If something happens, it’s my fault. If we didn’t get there, it’s my fault. If we got compromised, it’s my fault. I’m not gonna sit there going “it’s his fault.” (77:00)
• Once we go in the water, it over, that boat is blowing up. (79:46)
• There has to be a level of finality to whatever you’re doing. If I don’t do this correctly, things aren’t gonna work out so well. (130:37)
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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. RANDY BEAUSOLEIL: What it Takes to Be A Navy SEAL, Operation Blue Spoon, The Invasion of Panama](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/F8BT9i0MB58/mqdefault.jpg)
![REP. JASON CROW: Former Army Ranger & Bronze Star Recipient Serving a New Mission
From Ranger to Representative: Jason Crow on Service, Sacrifice, and Solutions
In this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast, Marcus and Melanie are honored to welcome Congressman Jason Crow, who represents Colorado’s Sixth Congressional District.
A former Army Ranger and Bronze Star recipient, Jason brings the heart of a public servant and the grit of a soldier to Congress. From working minimum-wage jobs in high school to deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan with the 82nd Airborne Division and elite 75th Ranger Regiment, Jason’s journey is a powerful testament to servant leadership.
We dive into:
• Jason’s path from working-class roots to the battlefield and into the halls of Congress
• How his military experience shapes his approach to leadership and legislation
• His work helping veterans navigate life after service
Tune in for a powerful conversation on service, sacrifice, and putting people before politics.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• I got hooked in the military for college money. (8:00)
• [The military] totally changed the trajectory of my life. (9:54)
• I always make it a point when I run into a Vietnam vet; I say “Welcome Home.” (16:20)
• [Marcus] Q: “Did you sign up for ranger school? What’s that like?” A: “Well, it sucks.” (20:22)
• Georgia is cold in the winter. It’s just a fuck fest. You’re just cold and tired and hungry for 2 months. (21:05)
• College is good, but I tell a lot of folks is [to learn] a trade. (35:40)
• The civil military divide: How little understanding a lot of people in America have of military service. (39:53)
• To be a veteran advocate, you had to be the squeaky wheel in politics. (41:08)
• Morgan [Luttrell] and I have this bill trying to stop veteran suicides in VA facilities. (43:34)
• We can only make good policy if we have good information. (44:47)
• [Marcus] “You and I don’t need enemies – we have friends.” (48:21)
• [Marcus] “My brother never says anything nice to me.” (48:30)
• [Melanie: Vets should] “Support each other, love each other, lift each other up. Talk shit in a good way. Hold each other accountable.” (49:10)
• The greatest generation fought WWII, defeated fascism, and they came back and became the civic leaders, the political leaders, the business leaders. They set the standard for what citizenship is about. (52:57)
• We have the Bipartisan Veteran Caucus in congress. We call it the Noah’s Ark caucus, because you’ve gotta join with somebody from the other side of the aisle. (54:23)
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![EVY POUMPOURAS: Former Secret Service Agent - 9/11 First Responder & Best Selling Author
Mastering Fear and Building Resilience with Evy Poumpouras
In this compelling episode, Marcus and Melanie sit down with the incredible Evy Poumpouras, former Secret Service Agent, author, and expert in resilience and personal empowerment. Evy shares her journey from protecting presidents to empowering individuals to face their fears and build unshakeable resilience. She provides practical strategies for managing fear, handling stress, and cultivating a mindset that can thrive in any situation.
As a Secret Service Agent, Evy served under Presidents George W. Bush, Barack Obama, and Bill Clinton. She is the author of “Becoming Bulletproof: Protect Yourself, Read People, Influence Situations, and Live Fearlessly.” She is a renowned speaker and media commentator, frequently appearing on networks like CNN, MSNBC, and NBC. Her expertise in body language, lie detection, and personal protection makes her a sought-after expert in the fields of security and resilience.
Evy’s actions as a first responder during the 9/11 terror attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City bestowed her the United States Secret Service Valor Award.
Resources:
Book: Becoming Bulletproof by Evy Poumpouras
Evy’s Website: evypoumpouras.com
Follow Evy on Social Media: Instagram, Twitter
@evypoumpouras
In this episode you will hear:
• I was born in Harlem, New York. My parents were immigrants – they’re Greek. (9:50)
• My dad’s first job in America – he worked for free. (12:04)
• [Growing up] Fun was when the fire department would open up the fire hydrants, and we’d run through them. That was “going to the pool.” (13:57)
• I’ve always trusted my [inner] voice – whatever it is – intuition, instinct. I would listen to it. (18:22)
• I’m brave if I’m in proximity of other brave people. (19:30)
• When I applied to the Secret Service and before that, NYPD, I never asked what am I getting paid? (22:55)
• Everything I was able to do, happened here, and there’s no question in my mind, had I been born in Greece – I say this with all humility, there’s no way I would’ve ever been a secret service agent, there’s no way I would’ve ever been a cop. (39:20)
• After 9/11, the tone changed significantly. [People became] very much supportive of first responders. (42:10)
• [In the 9-11 experience] there were no injuries that day. You either lived, or you died. (59:51)
• That was the saddest part, I thought “I’m gonna die all by myself here – completely alone.” (69:33)
• Those situations show you who people really are. Even training won’t reveal that, until you see who does what, and who’s capable of what. (80:25)
• [Marcus] The best comes out in everybody when we all get hit at the same time. (81:11)
• [Marcus} I think 9-11 recreated a different kind of America. (84:38)
• I never dealt with the victims, I dealt with the suspects and the perpetrators. (99:52)
• I learned when I was an interviewer, certain countries torture certain ways. (110:04)
• I think our next big attack is gonna be a cyber-attack. (120:23)
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About TNQ Podcast:
Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. EVY POUMPOURAS: Former Secret Service Agent - 9/11 First Responder & Best Selling Author](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FhNFZ1tc6hk/mqdefault.jpg)
![Jeremy Mahughs Journey From Spec Ops To Fighting Human Trafficking and Launching Caim Technology
From Navy SEAL sniper with Special Operations and Intelligence Community experience to Co-Founder of DeliverFund, a counter human trafficking organization. That’s this week’s Team Never Quit Podcast guest, Jeremy Mahugh. Marcus and Jeremy get in the weeds regarding Jeremy’s involvement in the development of cell phone app technology capable of identifying potential human trafficking risks as a preventive measure against being victimized. DeliverFund is run by a team of former CIA, Special Ops, and law enforcement personnel. The nonprofit uses open-source intelligence and proprietary software to analyze the activity of human traffickers in the U.S. and help law enforcement take them down. Caim Technology www.caim.tech In this episode you will hear: • [While in a float tank] I thought, “I wonder what it’d feel like if I just rolled over?”. I got the salt in my nose, and eyes, and ears, and the rest of the hour was shot. (8:41) • Everybody has the ability to travel now, but some people still don’t. (15:24) • [My grandfather] was in the Army Air Corps and was shot down over Yugoslavia in World War II. He was a POW. (22:44) • I’m still not sure if they know what soccer is in Texas. (24:03) • I just wanted to be part of a team – I wanted to part of something that was gonna push me to be better. (27:26) • [DeliverFund] is focused on collecting any kind of data on human trafficking or exploitation. (57:39) • One of the things that’s been missing is having a tool to put in the hands of the consumer. So we have a mobile app that will tell you if you’re interacting with someone in the [human trafficking] database. (58:02) • You can connect a consumer with a product via smart phone. That’s also happening in the human trafficking world. (59:51) • Q: Is the app available? A: We’re probably a month or two away from being launched. We’re collecting data from a multitude of websites. (66:11) • It will go to the app store soon, and has to go through beta testing. (66:30) • Technology has gotten to the point that it is everything to us. (70:22) • It’s the Wild West. There’s never been good parameters on how [AI] can be used. (75:16) • Everybody has a need to deal with this [DeliverFund App] and has a need for good information. (78:04) • What I love about what we’re doing now is we’re here to support all of you. Our for-profit is there to make money, but provide tools and prevention and have a huge hammer in the fight against human trafficking. (82:15)
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Each week join Retired Navy SEAL and Lone Survivor Marcus Luttrell, Morgan Luttrell, and Producer Andrew Brockenbush as they’ll take you into the “briefing room” to chat with incredible guests who share their greatest never quit stories. This humorous, heartfelt, and entertaining podcast is changing lives and has become a beacon of hope and resilience to those who are facing the impossible. One of the best ways we can support our community is to share their stories so that we might inspire others to Never Quit.
We’re bringing you real-life stories of men and women who took life’s toughest challenges and met them head-on, radically changing their own lives and inspiring others to do the same. Jeremy Mahughs Journey From Spec Ops To Fighting Human Trafficking and Launching Caim Technology](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GJ-ImniZWbM/mqdefault.jpg)
![SEAN GLASS: Former Navy SEAL Officer - Primal Beef Company, Leading in High-pressure Environments
In this week’s Team Never Quit episode, Marcus and Melanie welcome Sean Glass, a former U.S. Navy SEAL officer and seasoned leadership instructor with Echelon Front. With over 13 years of experience in the SEAL Teams and combat deployments to Afghanistan, Iraq, and Eastern Africa, Sean shares his insights on leadership in both military and business settings.
Sean led 5 SEAL platoons in Iraq against Islamic State forces, and was the Officer-in-Charge of training for all West Coast SEAL Teams.
In his transition to the business world, Sean became the Chief Operating Officer at a venture-backed construction tech startup, and is currently the Leadership Instructor at Echelon Front, where he is building a decentralized, team-first culture in a rapidly growing company.
Join us for an inspiring conversation with Sean Glass as he shares invaluable lessons on leadership that can be applied in any high-pressure environment. Don’t miss this opportunity to gain insights from a true leader who has navigated the challenges of both the battlefield and the boardroom.
In This Episode You Will Hear:
• [Growing up] we had Emus at one time for some reason. (7:46)
• I read that book, and something inside me was alive, like “This is what I wanna do” Everything I did after that was asking myself that question: Is this next move gonna help me get into the Navy? and if it’s not, then I didn’t do it. (17:25)
• [Marcus] I feel like our saving grace is the fact that we did it for God and country. If you’re a wild child and you wanna have the most fun of your entire life, go into the SEAL teams. (19:36)
• Given a boat crew, If you don’t perform – if you screw up, your boat crew get beats for you. Sorry – remediated – gets remediated for you. (24:51)
• The less you think about yourself, especially when you’re miserable, the better off you are. (25:18)
• [Marcus] If you want to teach your son or yourself to be a great barterer or negotiator, go over there [Afghanistan]. (41:24)
• Gift giving is a big thing to them [Afghans]. (41:54)
• Getting to be on the other side of the BUDS equation was a great experience, because you get to see all the workings that go into it – all the things you don’t see and appreciate as a student obviously because you’re just trying to survive. (44:21)
• I don’t have a good poker face. (45:33)
• No one puts a premium on training like the SEAL teams do. It’s everything for us. (54:26)
• I closed out my career at the training command which was just the best place you could possibly be. (55:21)
• Our goal there [Echelon Front] is to arm their leaders with the tools they need to be better leaders. (65:42)
• Jocko started Primal Beef, and our goal was to bring the same farm-raised all natural, Black Angus American beef that we had the opportunity to eat every night to as many Americans as we possibly could. (70:03)
• Our whole goal was basically to make things the best experience you could possibly have ordering beef from somebody. (74:49)
• Well above 80% of all beef produced in America comes from 4 different massive companies, and at least one of them is a foreign owned company. (77:55)
• The average age of a farmer right now is 63 years old, because families just aren’t taking over the family business. (78:06)
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