Uploaded October 2025 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
In this episode of The Ayn Rand Institute Podcast, Tristan de Liège and Ben Bayer discuss the widespread claim that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.
Among the topics covered:
• 0:00 Introduction
• 02:53 “International law”;
• 09:14 Valid concept of “genocide”;
• 22:26 Invalid collectivism;
• 33:58 The absurd UN definition;
• 43:34 Israel is not genocidal;
• 45:03 Just vs. unjust war;
• 56:02 Genocidal Hamas
Recommended in this podcast is Elan Journo’s book What Justice Demands: America and the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict [amazon.com/dp/168261798X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_YnGOAbJEPTB0G], Ben Bayer's essay "We Ignore the Unconditional Right to Self-Defense at Our Peril" [newideal.aynrand.org/we-ignore-the-unconditional-right-to-self-defense-at-our-peril/], and the podcast with Elan Journo and Nikos Sotirakopolous, "Did Israel Steal Palestinian Land?" [youtube.com/watch?v=btVFgqkgkzw]
The podcast was recorded on October 3, 2025, and posted on October 7, 2025. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Watch archived podcasts here: newideal.aynrand.org/podcasts
Image credits: Alain Pitton/NurPhoto via Getty Images and Thomas Pajot/iStock via Getty Images. Kryssia Campos/Moment via Getty Images and Thomas Pajot/iStock via Getty Images.
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In this episode of The Ayn Rand Institute Podcast, Tristan de Liège and Ben Bayer discuss the widespread claim that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.
Among the topics covered:
• 0:00 Introduction
• 02:53 “International law”;
• 09:14 Valid concept of “genocide”;
• 22:26 Invalid collectivism;
• 33:58 The absurd UN definition;
• 43:34 Israel is not genocidal;
• 45:03 Just vs. unjust war;
• 56:02 Genocidal Hamas
Recommended in this podcast is Elan Journo’s book What Justice Demands: America and the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict [amazon.com/dp/168261798X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_YnGOAbJEPTB0G], Ben Bayer's essay "We Ignore the Unconditional Right to Self-Defense at Our Peril" [newideal.aynrand.org/we-ignore-the-unconditional-right-to-self-defense-at-our-peril/], and the podcast with Elan Journo and Nikos Sotirakopolous, "Did Israel Steal Palestinian Land?" [youtube.com/watch?v=btVFgqkgkzw]
The podcast was recorded on October 3, 2025, and posted on October 7, 2025. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Watch archived podcasts here: newideal.aynrand.org/podcasts
Image credits: Alain Pitton/NurPhoto via Getty Images and Thomas Pajot/iStock via Getty Images. Kryssia Campos/Moment via Getty Images and Thomas Pajot/iStock via Getty Images.
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