Uploaded January 2026 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
I sit down with Furqan Rydhan, a founding team member of Applovin and cofounder Founders Inc, as he walks me through Nebula, a Slack-like workspace where every channel holds an agent that can execute real work across the tools teams already use. We watch Nebula create and edit a Google Slides deck end-to-end, including generating an image and handling failures by retrying until it lands. Furqan shows how Nebula turns one-off work into repeatable “recipes” with scheduled triggers, like adding slides daily or publishing blog posts multiple times per day. We also talk about what “business-in-a-box” looks like in the AI era; where direction, taste, and quality loops become the edge as automation gets widely available.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro
01:51 –Building useful agents for real work
03:34 – Nebula: a Slack-like agent workspace
05:04 – Demo: Nebula creating a Deck with Google Slides
13:25 – The “business in a box” content dream (newsletters, affiliates, ads)
14:39 – Demo: Automate Blog Posting
15:52 – What stays valuable when everyone automates
21:23 – Agent workforce and Building quality loops
25:38 – Services and agencies: delivering work with fewer humans
28:53 – Final Thoughts
Key Points
* I watch Nebula run like “cloud code for everything else,” automating real work across tools and workflows.
* Agents turn one-time actions into repeatable systems via triggers and schedules.
* The interface mirrors Slack because work already lives in channels, threads, and context.
* Quality becomes the differentiator: critics, scoring, and iteration loops upgrade outputs over time.
* Service businesses and agencies scale faster when agents handle production-heavy tasks
Numbered Section Summaries
1. Nebula As A Slack For Agents
I get a tour of Nebula’s channel-based UI, where every channel can hold a dedicated agent for a workflow. Furqan frames it as a way to make non-engineering work feel like using powerful dev tools—except applied to everything.
2. From Prompt To Slides In Minutes
We connect Nebula to Google Slides, and it creates a brand-new presentation and edits it live. Furqan highlights the key shift: Nebula figures out documentation, writes code, executes it, and applies changes directly inside the app.
3. Multi-Modal Work: Text Today, Audio Next
I call out that this feels like a glimpse into how we’ll interact with software going forward. Furqan shares his push toward audio + screen share as a high-bandwidth input, where you explain your thinking quickly and the system executes.
4. Image Generation + Failure Recovery In Real Time
We push the demo further by generating a full-slide image, and we hit some real friction—multiple attempts, size constraints, retries. The point lands: agents keep iterating until they find a path that works, and the user stays focused on the outcome.
5. Recipes, Triggers, And Autonomous Output
Furqan shows how Nebula converts context into a repeatable “recipe,” then schedules it like a cron job. We use the example of adding slides daily until a deck reaches 15 slides, demonstrating hands-off execution.
6. Business-In-A-Box Content Systems
My brain immediately goes to automated newsletters and content businesses: pulling from X, Google News, press releases, then publishing daily with a style guide. Furqan shares his own test blog running 3 posts/day, with search traffic already showing up.
7. Commoditization And The Taste Advantage
I raise the inevitable question: what happens when everyone can spin up automated blogs and workflows. Furqan’s answer centers on escalation—higher quality, better delivery, sharper differentiation, and critics that enforce standards.
8. Agency Delivery, Lead Gen, And Company Ops
We connect the dots to service businesses: content agencies, analytics setups, reporting, research—delivered by a smaller human team orchestrating agents. The bigger idea becomes an “AI team” that produces meaningful economic value when pointed in the right direction.
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I sit down with Furqan Rydhan, a founding team member of Applovin and cofounder Founders Inc, as he walks me through Nebula, a Slack-like workspace where every channel holds an agent that can execute real work across the tools teams already use. We watch Nebula create and edit a Google Slides deck end-to-end, including generating an image and handling failures by retrying until it lands. Furqan shows how Nebula turns one-off work into repeatable “recipes” with scheduled triggers, like adding slides daily or publishing blog posts multiple times per day. We also talk about what “business-in-a-box” looks like in the AI era; where direction, taste, and quality loops become the edge as automation gets widely available.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro
01:51 –Building useful agents for real work
03:34 – Nebula: a Slack-like agent workspace
05:04 – Demo: Nebula creating a Deck with Google Slides
13:25 – The “business in a box” content dream (newsletters, affiliates, ads)
14:39 – Demo: Automate Blog Posting
15:52 – What stays valuable when everyone automates
21:23 – Agent workforce and Building quality loops
25:38 – Services and agencies: delivering work with fewer humans
28:53 – Final Thoughts
Key Points
* I watch Nebula run like “cloud code for everything else,” automating real work across tools and workflows.
* Agents turn one-time actions into repeatable systems via triggers and schedules.
* The interface mirrors Slack because work already lives in channels, threads, and context.
* Quality becomes the differentiator: critics, scoring, and iteration loops upgrade outputs over time.
* Service businesses and agencies scale faster when agents handle production-heavy tasks
Numbered Section Summaries
1. Nebula As A Slack For Agents
I get a tour of Nebula’s channel-based UI, where every channel can hold a dedicated agent for a workflow. Furqan frames it as a way to make non-engineering work feel like using powerful dev tools—except applied to everything.
2. From Prompt To Slides In Minutes
We connect Nebula to Google Slides, and it creates a brand-new presentation and edits it live. Furqan highlights the key shift: Nebula figures out documentation, writes code, executes it, and applies changes directly inside the app.
3. Multi-Modal Work: Text Today, Audio Next
I call out that this feels like a glimpse into how we’ll interact with software going forward. Furqan shares his push toward audio + screen share as a high-bandwidth input, where you explain your thinking quickly and the system executes.
4. Image Generation + Failure Recovery In Real Time
We push the demo further by generating a full-slide image, and we hit some real friction—multiple attempts, size constraints, retries. The point lands: agents keep iterating until they find a path that works, and the user stays focused on the outcome.
5. Recipes, Triggers, And Autonomous Output
Furqan shows how Nebula converts context into a repeatable “recipe,” then schedules it like a cron job. We use the example of adding slides daily until a deck reaches 15 slides, demonstrating hands-off execution.
6. Business-In-A-Box Content Systems
My brain immediately goes to automated newsletters and content businesses: pulling from X, Google News, press releases, then publishing daily with a style guide. Furqan shares his own test blog running 3 posts/day, with search traffic already showing up.
7. Commoditization And The Taste Advantage
I raise the inevitable question: what happens when everyone can spin up automated blogs and workflows. Furqan’s answer centers on escalation—higher quality, better delivery, sharper differentiation, and critics that enforce standards.
8. Agency Delivery, Lead Gen, And Company Ops
We connect the dots to service businesses: content agencies, analytics setups, reporting, research—delivered by a smaller human team orchestrating agents. The bigger idea becomes an “AI team” that produces meaningful economic value when pointed in the right direction.
The #1 tool to find startup ideas/trends - ideabrowser.com
LCA helps Fortune 500s and fast-growing startups build their future - from Warner Music to Fortnite to Dropbox. We turn 'what if' into reality with AI, apps, and next-gen products https://latecheckout.agency/
The Vibe Marketer - Resources for people into vibe marketing/marketing with AI: thevibemarketer.com
FIND ME ON SOCIAL
X/Twitter: twitter.com/gregisenberg
Instagram: instagram.com/gregisenberg
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/gisenberg
FIND FURQAN ON SOCIAL Furqan's
X: https://x.com/FurqanR
Fuqan’s personal website: furqan.com
Nebula: nebula.gg





 with AI assistance to rapidly build a case management system for a nonprofit
• The approach focuses on creating simple CRUD (Create, Read, Update, Delete) applications rather than complex systems
1) The Sell First, Build Later Framework
Billys #1 rule: Find someone to BUY your app BEFORE you build it.
Most developers get this backward - they build something cool then struggle to find users.
The secret? Dont market. SELL.
How? Look for people ALREADY trying to pay for solutions
2) Upwork Gold Mining Strategy
Billys exact process:
• Search Upwork for jobs mentioning expensive SaaS tools (Airtable, HubSpot, etc)
• Look for simple CRUD apps (data entry, visualization)
• Build a quick prototype in [Repl.it](http://repl.it/)
• Send a Loom video demo to potential clients
His first sale? $750 replacing an Airtable solution!
3) The Vibe Coding Tech Stack
Billys weapons of choice:
• Replit for rapid prototyping (zero setup friction!)
• ChatGPT to format requirements into PRDs
• V0 for beautiful UI mockups
• ShadCN components for clean interfaces
The magic combo: Feed requirements to Replit + build me this app = working prototype in MINUTES.
4) What to Avoid When Vibe Coding
Not all projects are created equal! Watch out for:
• Payment processing (risky)
• DocuSign integrations (complex)
• Calendar functionality (AI struggles with time zones)
• Anything changing data in other apps
Start with simple CRUD apps that store and display information.
5) The Real Money-Making Model
Billys approach isnt just about one-off projects:
• Initial build: $750-2,500
• Charge for hosting
• Recurring revenue from feature requests
• Get referrals to similar businesses
One recent client is now reselling his solution to other companies in the same industry!
6) Why This Beats Building a SaaS
Building a traditional SaaS = nightmare money pit according to Billy.
With vibe coding consulting:
• De-risk by getting paid upfront
• Learn across multiple projects
• No marketing costs
• Discover validated problems
• Build a portfolio of solutions
Six figures on Upwork is VERY doable.
7) The 60-Second Sales Pitch
Billys exact closing technique:
• Find job posting
• Make mockup in V0 or Replit
• Record 1-minute Loom: Im Billy, I make apps. I know you wanted Airtable, but I made this custom for you.
• Personalize with company name
• Send and repeat
Simple. Effective. PROFITABLE.
The future of coding isnt about knowing every framework—its about SOLVING PROBLEMS quickly.
Anyone can do this with the right tools and approach.
Notable Quotes:
The number one thing is how to sell an app that youve built... And the secret is not to market. Its just to sell it. - Billy Howell
We start, we need to find someone to buy the app before we build it. Thats where most people get this wrong, is they build something and then try to sell it or try to get users. - Billy Howell
LCA helps Fortune 500s and fast-growing startups build their future - from Warner Music to Fortnite to Dropbox. We turn what if into reality with AI, apps, and next-gen products https://latecheckout.agency/
BoringAds — ads agency that will build you profitable ad campaigns http://boringads.com/
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Startup Empire — a membership for builders who want to build cash-flowing businesses https://www.startupempire.co
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X/Twitter: https://x.com/billyjhowell
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@billyjhowell He makes $750 a day Vibe Coding Apps (using Replit, ChatGPT, Upwork)](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/opi1s_5Dm-c/mqdefault.jpg)




