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Nick Cave and Tom Holland discussed Christianity in an event organised by Unherd entitled In Search of Wild Gods on Thursday 9th January 2025.
Chaired by Freddie Sayers, the conversation revolved around whether and why there is renewed interest in Christianity.
Tom Holland’s book Dominion has become a staple of learned comment, with its thesis that pretty much all the values that shape our society are Christian values.
Nick Cave is currently on a global tour with tremendous, joyous, hard won songs conveying a distinctly revival feel.
But are we in a culturally significant moment?
The answers they gave are much worth considering. What do they find in church? What do they not want to find? What is about the weird and wonderful that so appeals to Tom Holland? What is about the mystical and inexpressible that attracts Nick Cave?
The discussion brought little comfort for Christians who seek success by numbers or ecclesiastics hoping a panic about cultural Christianity will save the church.
Rather, both Cave and Holland point to a kind of Christianity that opens onto the unknown, inspires the imagination, and enlarges the capacities of the human soul.
0:00 Why Nick Cave went back to church
6:15 How Nick Cave imagines God
9:30 Tom Holland's love of the weird
14:23 Holland's thesis about Christian values
17:10 Is there a Christian revival underway?
23:28 Christianity at its most compelling
28:13 Music as akin to religious experience
Nick Cave and Tom Holland discussed Christianity in an event organised by Unherd entitled In Search of Wild Gods on Thursday 9th January 2025.
Chaired by Freddie Sayers, the conversation revolved around whether and why there is renewed interest in Christianity.
Tom Holland’s book Dominion has become a staple of learned comment, with its thesis that pretty much all the values that shape our society are Christian values.
Nick Cave is currently on a global tour with tremendous, joyous, hard won songs conveying a distinctly revival feel.
But are we in a culturally significant moment?
The answers they gave are much worth considering. What do they find in church? What do they not want to find? What is about the weird and wonderful that so appeals to Tom Holland? What is about the mystical and inexpressible that attracts Nick Cave?
The discussion brought little comfort for Christians who seek success by numbers or ecclesiastics hoping a panic about cultural Christianity will save the church.
Rather, both Cave and Holland point to a kind of Christianity that opens onto the unknown, inspires the imagination, and enlarges the capacities of the human soul.
0:00 Why Nick Cave went back to church
6:15 How Nick Cave imagines God
9:30 Tom Holland's love of the weird
14:23 Holland's thesis about Christian values
17:10 Is there a Christian revival underway?
23:28 Christianity at its most compelling
28:13 Music as akin to religious experience




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“Why is the Bible more Entertaining & Instructive than any other book?” William Blake asked in a letter. His answer is that this text, along with some others, is not a work of history or record, theological analysis or moral teaching, but inspiration. He continues: “Is it not because they [he has all inspired texts in mind] are addressed to the Imagination, which is Spiritual Sensation, & but mediately to the Understanding or Reason? “
As he puts it in another place: “The Hebrew Bible & the Gospel of Jesus are not Allegory, but Eternal Vision or Imagination of All that Exists .”
In this talk, delivered to a seminar at Virginia Theological Seminary, Mark Vernon explores Blake’s attitude towards the bible and unpacks how he depicted a series of gospel scenes including the woman caught in adultery, the entry into Jerusalem, the crucifixion and the resurrection.
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