Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
We’ve all heard the lie that leadership is lonely, but does it have to be?
In this episode, I sit down with author and visionary Jennie Allen to dismantle the myth that ministry requires isolation. As a generation of leaders often thrust into influence early, many of us have traded deep personal connection for artificial digital content. Jennie shares why the Western experiment of independence is failing and offers a practical framework to fight back—starting with her five miles, five friends rule.
From navigating the complexity of couple-friendships to the one question that makes anyone feel truly known, this conversation is a roadmap for any young leader ready to move past small talk and start building a ride-or-die community. It’s time to stop looking for a platform and start looking for your people.
Watch the full episode: youtube.com/watch?v=DjQ_VGxvBLY
We’ve all heard the lie that leadership is lonely, but does it have to be?
In this episode, I sit down with author and visionary Jennie Allen to dismantle the myth that ministry requires isolation. As a generation of leaders often thrust into influence early, many of us have traded deep personal connection for artificial digital content. Jennie shares why the Western experiment of independence is failing and offers a practical framework to fight back—starting with her five miles, five friends rule.
From navigating the complexity of couple-friendships to the one question that makes anyone feel truly known, this conversation is a roadmap for any young leader ready to move past small talk and start building a ride-or-die community. It’s time to stop looking for a platform and start looking for your people.
Watch the full episode: youtube.com/watch?v=DjQ_VGxvBLY
