Uploaded April 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
In this episode of NextUp, Grant sits down with world-renowned psychologist and author Dr. Henry Cloud to dismantle the confusion surrounding modern Christian dating.
For a generation that grew up in the shadow of the "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" movement, many young leaders find themselves stuck in a cycle of waiting on God, ditching faith in Him in the process. Dr. Cloud shares why he moved from being a psychologist to a dating coach for a season, uncovering the specific reasons why healthy, mission-minded singles aren't finding each other.
They discuss the Dating for Growth framework—the idea that dating isn't just a search for "the one," but a laboratory where God uncovers the internal barriers and anxieties that might be holding you back from your full calling.
If you're a young leader navigating the tension between your personal life and your mission, this conversation offers a much-needed roadmap to move from passive waiting to intentional action. In this conversation, Grant and Dr. Cloud discuss:
✅ The Waiting Trap: Why sitting at home waiting for God to bring someone to your door might be keeping you from the very growth you need.
✅ The 5-People-a-Week Challenge: The radical advice Dr. Cloud gave to a woman who hadn't dated in years, and the internal healing that followed.
✅ Dating as a Growth Path: How to use the dating process to look under the hood of your own character and spiritual maturity.
✅ The Exclusivity Problem: Why we often rush into serious labels too quickly and how to protect your heart while staying open.
✅ The Six-Month Guarantee: How a shift in perspective can lead to a healthy relationship faster than you think.
Watch the full episode here:youtube.com/watch?v=ZlE_jm8Tyy4
In this episode of NextUp, Grant sits down with world-renowned psychologist and author Dr. Henry Cloud to dismantle the confusion surrounding modern Christian dating.
For a generation that grew up in the shadow of the "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" movement, many young leaders find themselves stuck in a cycle of waiting on God, ditching faith in Him in the process. Dr. Cloud shares why he moved from being a psychologist to a dating coach for a season, uncovering the specific reasons why healthy, mission-minded singles aren't finding each other.
They discuss the Dating for Growth framework—the idea that dating isn't just a search for "the one," but a laboratory where God uncovers the internal barriers and anxieties that might be holding you back from your full calling.
If you're a young leader navigating the tension between your personal life and your mission, this conversation offers a much-needed roadmap to move from passive waiting to intentional action. In this conversation, Grant and Dr. Cloud discuss:
✅ The Waiting Trap: Why sitting at home waiting for God to bring someone to your door might be keeping you from the very growth you need.
✅ The 5-People-a-Week Challenge: The radical advice Dr. Cloud gave to a woman who hadn't dated in years, and the internal healing that followed.
✅ Dating as a Growth Path: How to use the dating process to look under the hood of your own character and spiritual maturity.
✅ The Exclusivity Problem: Why we often rush into serious labels too quickly and how to protect your heart while staying open.
✅ The Six-Month Guarantee: How a shift in perspective can lead to a healthy relationship faster than you think.
Watch the full episode here:youtube.com/watch?v=ZlE_jm8Tyy4










