Uploaded March 2020 | Updated September 2026, 5 hours ago

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You could fit a small town on the footprint of a mall. Now, some cities are doing that.

The Gruen Effect by 99% Invisible: 99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-gruen-effect

Learn more: grist.org/climate/malls-are-going-back-to-their-roots-as-suburban-town-centers