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A discussion of the visualizations of Achilles and Patroklos in Homeric poetry and in the vase-painting; their similarities and differences; the idea of Patroklos as a body-double of Achilles, and a notion of Patroklos as an older Achilles, the one that Achilles does not become.
Recorded in Fall 2019 during v12 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hours 7 and 8, and responses to the Discussion Questions.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith Stone, and members of the HeroesX Team.
A discussion of the visualizations of Achilles and Patroklos in Homeric poetry and in the vase-painting; their similarities and differences; the idea of Patroklos as a body-double of Achilles, and a notion of Patroklos as an older Achilles, the one that Achilles does not become.
Recorded in Fall 2019 during v12 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hours 7 and 8, and responses to the Discussion Questions.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith Stone, and members of the HeroesX Team.
