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Discussion topics include the notions of right and wrong in Homer and Hesiod; rarity of hubris and dikē in Homer, along with the analysis of the few notable occurrences of these words in the Homeric epics. Sharper conceptions of right and wrong for females and by females; the hubris of Agamemnon; Achilles and the body of Hector; the human sacrifice at the funeral of Patroklos; the just king in the Odyssey, a flood of Zeus as a punishment of unjust people in the Iliad, and the appearance of the concept of justice in the Homeric similes; the rhapsodic mode of performance of the poetry of Hesiod.
Recorded in Spring 2019 during v11 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hour 12 and responses to the Discussion Question.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith Stone, and members of the HeroesX Team.
Discussion topics include the notions of right and wrong in Homer and Hesiod; rarity of hubris and dikē in Homer, along with the analysis of the few notable occurrences of these words in the Homeric epics. Sharper conceptions of right and wrong for females and by females; the hubris of Agamemnon; Achilles and the body of Hector; the human sacrifice at the funeral of Patroklos; the just king in the Odyssey, a flood of Zeus as a punishment of unjust people in the Iliad, and the appearance of the concept of justice in the Homeric similes; the rhapsodic mode of performance of the poetry of Hesiod.
Recorded in Spring 2019 during v11 of the MOOC, The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, focusing on Hour 12 and responses to the Discussion Question.
With Gregory Nagy, Keith Stone, and members of the HeroesX Team.

![HeroesX v09 Office Hours Extras 05 | Funeral Games, and Trojans
1. Discussion of Iliad 23.326–343: the funeral games for Patroklos.
Topics include the ainos and how there can be more than one meaning in a passage; whose tomb [sēma] is being used as a turning point; rituals associated with athletic contests.
2. Discussion about the Trojans as viewed by the Greeks.
Recorded in Spring 2018 during v9 of MOOC The Ancient Greek Hero in 24 Hours, in response to participants’ questions.
With Leonard Muellner, Sarah Scott HeroesX v09 Office Hours Extras 05 | Funeral Games, and Trojans](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/c2Hzc-zeGmc/mqdefault.jpg)








