From Monasteries to Boardrooms: Integrating Spirituality and Leadership | Nicholas Janni @johnvervaeke
From Monasteries to Boardrooms: Integrating Spirituality and Leadership | Nicholas Janni  @johnvervaeke
Uploaded August 2024 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
Nicholas Janni is a pioneer in executive development, having co-founded Olivier Mythodrama Associates, where he created leadership programs based on Shakespearean stories. He continues to work globally with leaders and organizations through his consultancy, Core Presence, and his innovative 'Leader as Healer' program, which promotes integrated, conscious leadership.


How can the ancient practices of spirituality and modern leadership development intersect to create transformative experiences?

In this episode of “Voice with Vervaeke,” John Vervaeke and Nicholas Janni explore this question through a conversation about leadership, spirituality, and human connection. Nicholas shares his transformative journey, from his school days to his encounters with Tibetan Buddhism and immersive theater, which led him to develop a unique approach to spiritual and embodied leadership. They discuss the importance of leaders connecting with their bodies, emotions, and the transpersonal, and the role of practices like bodywork, deep breathing, and poetry in facilitating this connection. Their conversation also explores the metaphysical realm, including prayer and spiritual guidance, and their impact on leadership. John and Nicholas discuss the cultural implications of their work and stress the importance of leaders who can promote this holistic approach to leadership and foster supportive communities for transformative experiences.


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00:00 Introduction: Convergence of Spirituality and Leadership
11:25 From Theatre to Leadership Consultancy
16:40 The Birth of 'Leader as Healer'
23:35 Reawakening Non-Propositional Thinking
43:40 The Transformative Power of Poetry
48:05 Therapy vs. Transformational Work
51:10 Integrating Awakening and Healing
01:02:55 Addressing the Modern Meaning Crisis
01:15:50 Embracing Prayer, Reverence, and Connectedness
01:24:30 Concluding Thoughts: The Imperative to Wake Up



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Ideas, People, and Works Mentioned in this Episode

Nicholas Janni, Leader as Healer
Heinrich Päs, The One: How an Ancient Idea Holds the Future of Physics
Vivian Dittmar
Richard Olivier
Shakespeare's Globe Theatre
Shakespeare, W. Henry V.
Shakespeare, W. Julius Caesar.
Shakespeare, W. The Tempest.
Malidoma Somé
Michael Meade
Patrick Connor
Charles Taylor
David Wyatt
Mary Oliver, Wild Geese.
Plato
René Descartes

Relevant Episodes
Exploring the Transrational: A Journey into the Realms of Consciousness with Vivian Dittmar youtube.com/watch?v=KSObTcQ6_Bg
Transpersonal States: Awakening, Enlightenment, and the Ego | Vivian Dittmar youtube.com/watch?v=wCz9XpdofSQ
Exploring Emotions and Transrational Wisdom with Vivian Dittmar youtube.com/watch?v=IQWLfOFe0lo

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