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Ethics on the Line Balancing Social Engineering Success with Target Protection
Presenter: Jennifer Isacoff
Why do social engineering assessments raise ethical concerns?
Social engineering engagements like phishing and vishing are powerful tools for exposing weaknesses in an organization’s defenses. They work by exploiting human trust. But what happens to the people who fall for them after the test is over?
What is this talk about?
This 15 minute campfire talk explores the ethical challenges of selling and conducting social engineering assessments without causing unintended harm to employees. Even when reports anonymize identities, basic security logs can often reveal who failed, sometimes leading to blame or punishment long after the engagement ends.
Why is this a problem for practitioners?
This creates a difficult question for social engineering professionals. How do you clearly demonstrate risk to a client while protecting the individuals being tested? The tension between accountability and education can undermine trust in both the assessment and the security team.
What ethical questions are discussed?
The session sparks an open discussion around whether mandatory post engagement training is the only ethical path forward, or if engagements can be designed to preserve anonymity while still delivering meaningful value to clients.
What real world experiences inform this talk?
Drawing from real world social engineering engagements, the discussion explores situations where proving impact, such as initial access or credential capture, conflicted with safeguarding individuals from negative consequences.
What solutions are on the table?
Expect a lively debate around practical approaches including creative contract language, log obfuscation strategies, client education, and engagement design choices that prioritize learning over punishment.
Who should attend?
This talk is for social engineering professionals, red teamers, defenders, and newcomers interested in the human side of security testing.
What is the goal of this session?
This is not just about ethics. It is about sustaining trust in the craft of social engineering while responsibly addressing the human factor that makes these attacks so effective.
Bring your stories, ideas, and opinions and let’s hash it out around the campfire.
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Ethics on the Line Balancing Social Engineering Success with Target Protection
Presenter: Jennifer Isacoff
Why do social engineering assessments raise ethical concerns?
Social engineering engagements like phishing and vishing are powerful tools for exposing weaknesses in an organization’s defenses. They work by exploiting human trust. But what happens to the people who fall for them after the test is over?
What is this talk about?
This 15 minute campfire talk explores the ethical challenges of selling and conducting social engineering assessments without causing unintended harm to employees. Even when reports anonymize identities, basic security logs can often reveal who failed, sometimes leading to blame or punishment long after the engagement ends.
Why is this a problem for practitioners?
This creates a difficult question for social engineering professionals. How do you clearly demonstrate risk to a client while protecting the individuals being tested? The tension between accountability and education can undermine trust in both the assessment and the security team.
What ethical questions are discussed?
The session sparks an open discussion around whether mandatory post engagement training is the only ethical path forward, or if engagements can be designed to preserve anonymity while still delivering meaningful value to clients.
What real world experiences inform this talk?
Drawing from real world social engineering engagements, the discussion explores situations where proving impact, such as initial access or credential capture, conflicted with safeguarding individuals from negative consequences.
What solutions are on the table?
Expect a lively debate around practical approaches including creative contract language, log obfuscation strategies, client education, and engagement design choices that prioritize learning over punishment.
Who should attend?
This talk is for social engineering professionals, red teamers, defenders, and newcomers interested in the human side of security testing.
What is the goal of this session?
This is not just about ethics. It is about sustaining trust in the craft of social engineering while responsibly addressing the human factor that makes these attacks so effective.
Bring your stories, ideas, and opinions and let’s hash it out around the campfire.
Sign Up for WWHF
Register for this year’s Wild West Hackin Fest here:
wildwesthackinfest.com/register
Get access to workshops, labs, and sessions taught by experienced practitioners, all focused on real world defensive and investigative skills.
#cybersecurity #socialengineering #phishing #vishing #infosec #redteam #securityethics #humanfactor #defensivesecurity #cyberawareness
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Black Hills Infosec Blogs: blackhillsinfosec.com/blog
Wild West Hackin' Fest YouTube: youtube.com/wildwesthackinfest
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Our role as “red teamers” is to try developing techniques that simulate these activities and to improve organisational security by training defensive security teams to check for every single bit (not literally) of data and also anticipate the locations from which attackers may conduct their operations. The technique discussed in this research only shows the basic mindset that can be developed further with each engagement.
Momen Eldawakhly, also known as CyberGuy, is a senior penetration tester at Samurai Digital Security Ltd and red team engineer with a strong track record in security research and red teaming. He has been recognized by major companies such as Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Yandex, Redhat, AT&T, Oneplus, SecureBug, Starbucks, Comcast, the United Nations, IBM, Nokia, and Sony for discovering critical and high severity vulnerabilities in their assets. Momen is also dedicated to sharing his knowledge with the cybersecurity community, and has given talks and sessions at various conferences and events. Honors: Some of Momen’s notable honors include being featured in conferences such as Black Hat, The Hack Summit, Wild West Hackin’ Fest, IEEE, Hacken, and GDSC. He has also discovered several zero days during his offensive security research, as listed in the publications section of his profile. Certifications: LPT [Master], CPENT ,OSWP, CRTO, CRTP ,eWAPTXv2.
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Incident Response: https://www.blackhillsinfosec.com/services/incident-response/
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