Uploaded August 2023 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
The creator of Grand Theft Auto stops by to talk about one of the biggest leaps for the video game industry - when we all realized we should probably have ratings cuz video games aren't just for kids anymore. In the eighties, David Jones built circuits for one of the very first personal computers in Dundee Scotland when he discovered his love for crafting games. He went on to start DMA design. In addition to Grand Theft Auto, David is responsible for Lemmings, Crackdown and APB and sold his most recent company to Epic Games leading to his work on Fortnite during its rise to fame.
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The creator of Grand Theft Auto stops by to talk about one of the biggest leaps for the video game industry - when we all realized we should probably have ratings cuz video games aren't just for kids anymore. In the eighties, David Jones built circuits for one of the very first personal computers in Dundee Scotland when he discovered his love for crafting games. He went on to start DMA design. In addition to Grand Theft Auto, David is responsible for Lemmings, Crackdown and APB and sold his most recent company to Epic Games leading to his work on Fortnite during its rise to fame.
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Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
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Come join the conversation at discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
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Featuring the music track Liberation by 505








![Trip Hawkins, the Electronic Artist
💠Season 3 Episode 27 - Trip Hawkins ðŸ’
Were thrilled to speak with Trip Hawkins, founder and CEO EA, 3DO, Digital Chocolate and more. From childhood football strategy, to WWIII Sims, he grew to make a company of electronic artists who made legendary games. Calming Steve Jobs, hacking consoles and many firsts - this week!
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[00:00:00] Founding Electronic Arts: Trip’s Vision for Creative Freedom
[00:12:31] The Apple Years: Working Under Steve Jobs
[00:52:37] Madden, Licensing, and Building a Sports Empire
[01:08:18] The 3DO Era: Ambition, Innovation, and Hard Lessons
[01:22:03] The Future of Games and Trip’s Next Chapter
[01:38:23] Trip Hawkins on Failure, Resilience, and Reinvention
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