Uploaded June 2023 | Updated September 2026, 2 hours ago
"In this episode, Sasha and Stella welcome guest, Dr. Mike Bailey who recently published a paper with co-author, Suzanna Diaz about reports of ROGD kids. Their paper is important because it essentially corroborates Dr. Lisa Littman's study from 2018. During the conversation, Dr. Bailey shares about the possibility that the paper could be retracted due to activist backlash. He also explores the findings of the paper with Sasha and Stella, as well as the complaints brought against it. They even dissect the context of why a paper would even be retracted in the first place.
Michael Bailey is American psychologist, behavioural geneticist, and professor at Northwestern University best known for his work on the etiology, or origins, of sexual orientation. He maintains that sexual orientation is heavily influenced by biology and male homosexuality is most likely inborn. Dr Bailey’s 2003 book, The Man Who Would Be Queen, gave an accessible, intimate, and compassionate account of male sexuality, with a focus on gender nonconforming boys, gay men, and male-to-female transsexuals.
The discussion also touches on the controversial topic of autogynephilia, a very heated issue within the gender debates.
Links:
parentsofrogdkids.com
How porn has changed:
fightthenewdrug.org/how-has-porn-changed-in-the-last-10-years
Mike’s Tweet
twitter.com/profjmb/status/1661022522446610434?s=20
Dr. David Ley
davidleyphd.com
Louise Perry’s Book:
amazon.com/Case-Against-Sexual-Revolution/dp/1509549994
Review of Louise Perry’s Book:
betonit.substack.com/p/marry-the-market-reflections-on-the
Download The Man Who Would Be Queen:
Researchgate.net/publication/281747420_The_Man_Who_Would_Be_Queen
Alice Dreger (June 2008). “The controversy surrounding The Man Who Would Be Queen: a case history of the politics of science, identity, and sex in the Internet age”. Archives of Sexual Behavior. 37 (3): 366–421. doi:10.1007/s10508-007-9301-1.
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"Episode 21 - Gender Dysphoria in Boys: Part 2"
youtu.be/J8VdySAopgs
"Episode 52 - Gender Dysphoria & Detransition Research: A Conversation W/ Dr. Lisa Littman"
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Episode 58 - Pioneers Series: Male Sexuality with Michael J. Bailey
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"In this episode, Sasha and Stella welcome guest, Dr. Mike Bailey who recently published a paper with co-author, Suzanna Diaz about reports of ROGD kids. Their paper is important because it essentially corroborates Dr. Lisa Littman's study from 2018. During the conversation, Dr. Bailey shares about the possibility that the paper could be retracted due to activist backlash. He also explores the findings of the paper with Sasha and Stella, as well as the complaints brought against it. They even dissect the context of why a paper would even be retracted in the first place.
Michael Bailey is American psychologist, behavioural geneticist, and professor at Northwestern University best known for his work on the etiology, or origins, of sexual orientation. He maintains that sexual orientation is heavily influenced by biology and male homosexuality is most likely inborn. Dr Bailey’s 2003 book, The Man Who Would Be Queen, gave an accessible, intimate, and compassionate account of male sexuality, with a focus on gender nonconforming boys, gay men, and male-to-female transsexuals.
The discussion also touches on the controversial topic of autogynephilia, a very heated issue within the gender debates.
Links:
parentsofrogdkids.com
How porn has changed:
fightthenewdrug.org/how-has-porn-changed-in-the-last-10-years
Mike’s Tweet
twitter.com/profjmb/status/1661022522446610434?s=20
Dr. David Ley
davidleyphd.com
Louise Perry’s Book:
amazon.com/Case-Against-Sexual-Revolution/dp/1509549994
Review of Louise Perry’s Book:
betonit.substack.com/p/marry-the-market-reflections-on-the
Download The Man Who Would Be Queen:
Researchgate.net/publication/281747420_The_Man_Who_Would_Be_Queen
Alice Dreger (June 2008). “The controversy surrounding The Man Who Would Be Queen: a case history of the politics of science, identity, and sex in the Internet age”. Archives of Sexual Behavior. 37 (3): 366–421. doi:10.1007/s10508-007-9301-1.
If you liked this episode, more episodes you might find interesting:
"Episode 2 - Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria"
youtu.be/OpbDO1Qod-o
"Episode 20 - Gender Dysphoria in Boys: Part 1"
youtu.be/OruMEMgxhY8
"Episode 21 - Gender Dysphoria in Boys: Part 2"
youtu.be/J8VdySAopgs
"Episode 52 - Gender Dysphoria & Detransition Research: A Conversation W/ Dr. Lisa Littman"
youtu.be/-_FEH0bcp5Y
Episode 58 - Pioneers Series: Male Sexuality with Michael J. Bailey
youtu.be/2spjAUZyIRY
Please visit https://linktr.ee/widerlenspod to explore more content, access additional resources, or join our listener community.
For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s private membership groups:
Sasha Ayad: inspiredteentherapy.com/parents-start-here
Stella O’Malley: stellaomalley.com/parent-coaching
To learn more about our sponsors, visit:
GETA genderexploratory.com
ReIME rethinkime.org
Genspect genspect.org
