Uploaded May 2013 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Don't have to watch the whole thing, just enough to know that something, somewhere is wrong. Sorry about the quiet audio after 3 minutes.
I was asked to find out what happens when discharge is used with Vaal Pact. Well I found out. I still don't know, maybe you can figure it out from the video. The mechanics of Vaal Pact are weird ones. Leech is applied instantly but it's supposedly before reflect damage is applied. Since Discharge can do enough damage to one shot myself on a single enemy, I should be dying, but I'm not. Since I'm not dying I should be leeching back all my life... but I'm not. I'm losing life by using discharge... sometimes, but also gaining life from using discharge... sometimes. I don't seem to end up at full life or dead and the number of enemies hit doesn't seem to have an effect on which way my health bar swings.
Vaal Pact grants instant life leech. The order of operations is apparently, damage is done, leech is accounted for, reflect damage is done (death),
With high resists everything works mostly as normal. I did some testing with Saffel's Frame and Topaz Flasks on inner force (96% lightning resist). When using that, Vaal Pact works as expected. When using small propagating hits like cold snap or freezing pulse, it works as expected. When using with low resists it works as expected (instadeath). PeteNorth's discharge is so strong it apparently breaks the game (god damnit, I said I was done with those jokes).
This behavior is so weird I'm not even sure if it's a bug. At any rate, there you have it. Discharge on Vaal Pact vs reflect mobs.
Build:
pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUABAcEswVbDH0OSBB_EZYUTRa_GYUaOBpsHwIkPCSqJ6ko-ilPKjgtHzbFNuk62DwFPV9Bh0k7SVFMs03YUDBSU1XGWm1d8l8qY0NmT20ZcFJw1XJ-erh-WX_GgUmBb4IegpuCx4M4hX2IQouMjHaOZI9GkFWXlZ2jna6ePJ_fogCio6cIp1ynhK6Tsji2-riTwFHB88aez2XQ0Ngk2t3bC9te42rjhOQi6-Tr7uw473zwH_DZ8h3z6vem_Ks=
Don't have to watch the whole thing, just enough to know that something, somewhere is wrong. Sorry about the quiet audio after 3 minutes.
I was asked to find out what happens when discharge is used with Vaal Pact. Well I found out. I still don't know, maybe you can figure it out from the video. The mechanics of Vaal Pact are weird ones. Leech is applied instantly but it's supposedly before reflect damage is applied. Since Discharge can do enough damage to one shot myself on a single enemy, I should be dying, but I'm not. Since I'm not dying I should be leeching back all my life... but I'm not. I'm losing life by using discharge... sometimes, but also gaining life from using discharge... sometimes. I don't seem to end up at full life or dead and the number of enemies hit doesn't seem to have an effect on which way my health bar swings.
Vaal Pact grants instant life leech. The order of operations is apparently, damage is done, leech is accounted for, reflect damage is done (death),
With high resists everything works mostly as normal. I did some testing with Saffel's Frame and Topaz Flasks on inner force (96% lightning resist). When using that, Vaal Pact works as expected. When using small propagating hits like cold snap or freezing pulse, it works as expected. When using with low resists it works as expected (instadeath). PeteNorth's discharge is so strong it apparently breaks the game (god damnit, I said I was done with those jokes).
This behavior is so weird I'm not even sure if it's a bug. At any rate, there you have it. Discharge on Vaal Pact vs reflect mobs.
Build:
pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUABAcEswVbDH0OSBB_EZYUTRa_GYUaOBpsHwIkPCSqJ6ko-ilPKjgtHzbFNuk62DwFPV9Bh0k7SVFMs03YUDBSU1XGWm1d8l8qY0NmT20ZcFJw1XJ-erh-WX_GgUmBb4IegpuCx4M4hX2IQouMjHaOZI9GkFWXlZ2jna6ePJ_fogCio6cIp1ynhK6Tsji2-riTwFHB88aez2XQ0Ngk2t3bC9te42rjhOQi6-Tr7uw473zwH_DZ8h3z6vem_Ks=
