Uploaded March 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Bryce Zabel returns to the podcast and Brent Friedman makes his first appearance as we discuss their new show, Sound, Light, Frequency, along with Dark Skies, Hollywood, disclosure, and the long-running question of whether entertainment has helped shape public perception of the UFO topic.
In this conversation, we get into Brent’s early experience of being briefed by a figure connected to the Reagan administration, the mysterious approaches made to Bryce and Brent around Dark Skies, whether similar quiet conversations are still happening today, and how both men now view the state of UFO disclosure in 2026.
We also discuss the idea of a government-Hollywood relationship, the role film and television may play in preparing the public, and where the line between fiction and reality may be starting to blur.
Topics include:
Sound, Light, Frequency
Dark Skies
Hollywood and UFO disclosure
Government influence and media
Brent Friedman’s early briefing
Quiet approaches from insiders
Disclosure, narrative, and public perception
Check out Sound, Light, Frequency wherever you get your podcasts.
Timestamps
00:00 The Secret Behind Episode 4
00:48 Meet Bryce Zabel & Brent Friedman
02:30 How Brent Entered the UFO World
04:51 The Real Idea Behind the New Show
11:46 The Mystery of “JC”
15:10 Did Hollywood Work with Government?
17:28 UFO Lore, Side Paths & Hidden Threads
26:36 The Hollywood “Unholy Alliance”
29:50 Disney, the Robertson Panel & UFOs
32:02 Spielberg’s Disclosure Day Moment
33:44 When Film and Politics Collide
34:30 Is Spielberg Hinting at Something?
35:37 What the Trailer May Reveal
37:09 A Coordinated Media Rollout?
40:00 Spielberg’s Place in the Bigger Story
43:20 The Many Forms of NHI
45:44 Listener Question: Controlled Disclosure?
48:38 The Future of Dark Skies
53:05 Would They Reboot Dark Skies?
54:40 Do Our Minds Shape the Phenomenon?
1:01:35 The Briefing That Changed Everything
1:06:35 Where to Follow Bryce & Brent
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🛸 Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397
🛸 Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ
🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast
📲 Connect with the show:
Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast
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👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!
Thanks for listening,
Andy
🎵 Music Credits:
"Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → bitly.ws/kvIK
"Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → bitly.ws/kvIL
Bryce Zabel returns to the podcast and Brent Friedman makes his first appearance as we discuss their new show, Sound, Light, Frequency, along with Dark Skies, Hollywood, disclosure, and the long-running question of whether entertainment has helped shape public perception of the UFO topic.
In this conversation, we get into Brent’s early experience of being briefed by a figure connected to the Reagan administration, the mysterious approaches made to Bryce and Brent around Dark Skies, whether similar quiet conversations are still happening today, and how both men now view the state of UFO disclosure in 2026.
We also discuss the idea of a government-Hollywood relationship, the role film and television may play in preparing the public, and where the line between fiction and reality may be starting to blur.
Topics include:
Sound, Light, Frequency
Dark Skies
Hollywood and UFO disclosure
Government influence and media
Brent Friedman’s early briefing
Quiet approaches from insiders
Disclosure, narrative, and public perception
Check out Sound, Light, Frequency wherever you get your podcasts.
Timestamps
00:00 The Secret Behind Episode 4
00:48 Meet Bryce Zabel & Brent Friedman
02:30 How Brent Entered the UFO World
04:51 The Real Idea Behind the New Show
11:46 The Mystery of “JC”
15:10 Did Hollywood Work with Government?
17:28 UFO Lore, Side Paths & Hidden Threads
26:36 The Hollywood “Unholy Alliance”
29:50 Disney, the Robertson Panel & UFOs
32:02 Spielberg’s Disclosure Day Moment
33:44 When Film and Politics Collide
34:30 Is Spielberg Hinting at Something?
35:37 What the Trailer May Reveal
37:09 A Coordinated Media Rollout?
40:00 Spielberg’s Place in the Bigger Story
43:20 The Many Forms of NHI
45:44 Listener Question: Controlled Disclosure?
48:38 The Future of Dark Skies
53:05 Would They Reboot Dark Skies?
54:40 Do Our Minds Shape the Phenomenon?
1:01:35 The Briefing That Changed Everything
1:06:35 Where to Follow Bryce & Brent
🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:
🛸 YouTube Memberships: youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join
🛸 Patreon: patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
🛸 Apple Podcasts: podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397
🛸 Spotify: open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ
🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast
📲 Connect with the show:
Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast
YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com
👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!
Thanks for listening,
Andy
🎵 Music Credits:
"Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → bitly.ws/kvIK
"Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → bitly.ws/kvIL
