Uploaded July 2023 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago

---

We broke the bleep button in a roller-coaster conversation with the legendary Cliff Bleszinski. Creator of Jazz Jackrabbit, Unreal game, Gears of War and many others, he's also made an impact on Broadway and now comics. Author, bar owner - how many polys you want with that math?

Thank you for listening to our podcast all about video games and the amazing people who bring them to life!
Hosted by Alexander Seropian and Aaron Marroquin
Find us at thefourthcurtain.com
Come join the conversation at discord.gg/KWeGE4xHfe
Follow us on twitter: @fourthcurtain
Featuring the music track Liberation by 505