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In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, Paul Barnhurst sits down with Dr. Eric Kelley, finance professor, Microsoft Excel MVP, and financial modeling educator, to discuss how financial modeling education is evolving through Excel Esports and hands-on learning. Eric shares how he uses competitions, real-world cases, and structured modeling techniques to help students build stronger financial modeling skills, think in systems, and create models that support better decision-making.
Dr. Eric Kelley is a finance professor at the University of Tennessee’s Haslam College of Business, where he teaches finance at the undergraduate, MBA, and PhD levels. He is a Microsoft Excel MVP and faculty fellow with the Microsoft Excel Collegiate Challenge. Eric focuses on developing integrated financial modeling education, helping students build scalable models through innovative techniques and competitive Excel-based learning.
Expect to Learn:
Why communication skills are critical for financial modelers
How to build models as flexible systems instead of one-time solutions
How Excel Esports helps students develop real-world modeling skills
How competitions can improve financial modeling education
Here are a few quotes from the episode:
"At the end of the day, we've got to be able to communicate. We've got to be able to tell stories." - Eric Kelley
"You're not trying to find a loan payment. You're trying to build a system that is going to take in a flexible set of inputs and generate a loan payment as an output." - Eric Kelley
Eric Kelley shares how financial modeling education can move beyond traditional instruction by combining technical skills, communication, and competitive problem-solving. Through Excel Esports and structured case-based learning, he helps students understand that strong models are not just about getting the right answer, but about building systems that can adapt, scale, and support decisions.
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In Today’s Episode:
[00:00] – Trailer
[04:33] – The Importance of Communication Skills
[09:12] – Discovering Excel Esports
[11:35] – Competing Under Pressure
[13:01] – Coaching Future Financial Modelers
[16:36] – Bringing Financial Modeling Into the Classroom
[23:51] – Building Excel Esports Cases
[32:00] – Students’ Biggest Modeling Breakthroughs
[36:23] – Advice for Aspiring Modelers
[38:10] – Excel Rapid Fire Questions
[43:33] – Final Advice on Learning Financial Modeling
In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, Paul Barnhurst sits down with Dr. Eric Kelley, finance professor, Microsoft Excel MVP, and financial modeling educator, to discuss how financial modeling education is evolving through Excel Esports and hands-on learning. Eric shares how he uses competitions, real-world cases, and structured modeling techniques to help students build stronger financial modeling skills, think in systems, and create models that support better decision-making.
Dr. Eric Kelley is a finance professor at the University of Tennessee’s Haslam College of Business, where he teaches finance at the undergraduate, MBA, and PhD levels. He is a Microsoft Excel MVP and faculty fellow with the Microsoft Excel Collegiate Challenge. Eric focuses on developing integrated financial modeling education, helping students build scalable models through innovative techniques and competitive Excel-based learning.
Expect to Learn:
Why communication skills are critical for financial modelers
How to build models as flexible systems instead of one-time solutions
How Excel Esports helps students develop real-world modeling skills
How competitions can improve financial modeling education
Here are a few quotes from the episode:
"At the end of the day, we've got to be able to communicate. We've got to be able to tell stories." - Eric Kelley
"You're not trying to find a loan payment. You're trying to build a system that is going to take in a flexible set of inputs and generate a loan payment as an output." - Eric Kelley
Eric Kelley shares how financial modeling education can move beyond traditional instruction by combining technical skills, communication, and competitive problem-solving. Through Excel Esports and structured case-based learning, he helps students understand that strong models are not just about getting the right answer, but about building systems that can adapt, scale, and support decisions.
Follow Eric:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ekkell
Youtube: youtube.com/@erickelley5900
Follow Financial Modeler's Corner:
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Newsletter - Subscribe on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7079020077076905984
Sign up for the Advanced Financial Modeler Accreditation today and get 15% off using the code “Podcast” at bit.ly/497oAqW
In Today’s Episode:
[00:00] – Trailer
[04:33] – The Importance of Communication Skills
[09:12] – Discovering Excel Esports
[11:35] – Competing Under Pressure
[13:01] – Coaching Future Financial Modelers
[16:36] – Bringing Financial Modeling Into the Classroom
[23:51] – Building Excel Esports Cases
[32:00] – Students’ Biggest Modeling Breakthroughs
[36:23] – Advice for Aspiring Modelers
[38:10] – Excel Rapid Fire Questions
[43:33] – Final Advice on Learning Financial Modeling
![AI in Finance for Professionals Dealing with Errors, Overhype, and Constant Learning Pressure
In this episode of The ModSquad, Paul Barnhurst, Ian Schnoor, and Giles Male share their real experiences using AI in financial modelling. They cut through the hype and discuss what AI actually does well, where it still struggles, and how professionals should be thinking about using it today. From building models to handling workflows, the conversation highlights both the value and the limitations of AI tools in real work.
Expect to Learn
Where AI actually helps in finance and modelling work
Why most “one-click solution” claims are unrealistic
The importance of checking and guiding AI outputs
How instructions and structure improve AI results
Here are a few quotes from the episode:
“It’s not a one-click solution. You still have to check everything.” – Giles Male
“You will have to understand every line to guide AI properly.” – Ian Schnoor
AI is powerful, but it’s not a shortcut to good work. It still needs guidance, structure, and strong fundamentals. The people who benefit most will be the ones who understand both the tools and the work behind them. For now, the best approach is simple: use it, test it, and don’t trust it blindly.
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In today’s episode:
[00:05] – Trailer
[02:06] – Current thoughts on AI after recent progress
[03:45] – Daily use of AI and time savings
[05:00] – Mental fatigue and keeping up with AI changes
[08:03] – Calling out AI hype and unrealistic claims
[12:30] – AI training challenges and business demand
[17:57] – “Eye of the storm” phase of AI development
[24:13] – Testing AI-built financial models
[30:52] – Why fixing AI models can take longer than building from scratch
[35:15] – Responsibility to challenge misleading AI claims
[38:41] – Using instructions to improve AI output
[42:59] – Final thoughts on AI, stress, and the future AI in Finance for Professionals Dealing with Errors, Overhype, and Constant Learning Pressure](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RRHPziG8DL0/mqdefault.jpg)



![AI in Financial Modeling for Analysts to Improve Accuracy and Speed with David Ingraham
In this episode of Future Finance, Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper are joined by David Ingraham to discuss how AI is transforming the world of finance, particularly in Excel, and why its essential to treat AI as a partner rather than a tool to simply execute commands. David, the CEO and founder of HyperPerfect, shares his insights on the challenges and opportunities in the AI-finance intersection, including the importance of context and understanding AI’s limitations.
David Ingraham is the CEO and founder of HyperPerfect, a financial reporting and accounting platform that integrates powerful AI directly into Excel. With nearly 20 years of experience in private equity, David has worked on deals totaling over $1.5 billion. He is also passionate about educational initiatives, serving as board president of Aim High, a Bay Area nonprofit that provides free summer education to nearly 2,000 students annually.
In this episode, you will discover:
Why finance professionals are slow to adopt AI despite its potential
How AI should be treated as a teammate, not a replacement
Why context is everything in AI models, especially in Excel
The limitations of AI in finance and how to work around them
David emphasizes that AI isn’t a shortcut; it’s most effective when used incrementally, with human oversight to ensure accurate results. He also discusses how AI can significantly increase productivity, with an efficiency gain of 15 to 20 times if used properly.
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Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai.
Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike.
In Today’s Episode:
[00:00] – Trailer
[02:35] – David Ingraham Background
[04:02] – AI in Finance & Accounting for Dummies
[05:57] – AI as a Teammate, Not a Threat
[07:09] – AI as a Thought Partner
[10:01] – Why Finance Teams Struggle with AI
[11:51] – Evolution of FP&A
[14:30] – RevOps & Finance Alignment
[16:41] – AI Use Cases in Finance
[19:20] – Agentic AI & Future Direction
[22:31] – Process, Data & AI Limitations
[28:52] – AI Questions & Closing AI in Financial Modeling for Analysts to Improve Accuracy and Speed with David Ingraham](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SNzSeMjJWnc/mqdefault.jpg)





