Uploaded April 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
When it comes to tools and workflows, Brian Lovin (https://x.com/brian_lovin) is someone I pay *very* close attention to.
He’s actually the one who first got me hooked on Conductor (https://www.conductor.build/) .
But times are changing (again 😅)…
So today’s episode is a deep dive into his design process and all of the ways he’s iterating on his approach to both *using* AI tools as well as *building* AI tools at Notion.
If you like getting into the weeds of how the best designers are wrangling AI then you’re going to love this episode.
Some highlights:
- Why his first Notion design offsite was so impactful
- How Brian built Notion’s prototyping playground
- Why Brian has started using Cursor again
- Practical tips for prompting AI more effectively
- Behind-the-scenes of Brian’s new side project
- How to stay relevant as a designer in an AI world
- + a *lot* more
- Agentation and Dialkit for frontend (agentation.com/) , joshpuckett.me/dialkit)
- Cursor and Conductor for coding (https://conductor.build/)
- Brian’s side project Shiori (https://shiori.sh/))
- Max Schoening nerd snipes Brian (https://x.com/mschoening)
- Karri’s issue tracking is dead article (https://linear.app/next)
Dive is where the best designers never stop learning 🤿
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🐦 twitter.com/joindiveclub
Now you can join advanced courses taught by the top designers to help you take a huge leap forward in your career 💪
Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:41 Joining Notion's design team
6:42 Designing with AI as a material
12:59 Brian's Notion prototyping playground
18:12 How design workflows have evolved
23:33 How Brian's tool stack has evolved
28:37 Strategies for coding with AI
34:06 Brian's bookmarking tool Shiori
43:18 AI is not magic
49:42 How Brian thinks about career strategy for designers
When it comes to tools and workflows, Brian Lovin (https://x.com/brian_lovin) is someone I pay *very* close attention to.
He’s actually the one who first got me hooked on Conductor (https://www.conductor.build/) .
But times are changing (again 😅)…
So today’s episode is a deep dive into his design process and all of the ways he’s iterating on his approach to both *using* AI tools as well as *building* AI tools at Notion.
If you like getting into the weeds of how the best designers are wrangling AI then you’re going to love this episode.
Some highlights:
- Why his first Notion design offsite was so impactful
- How Brian built Notion’s prototyping playground
- Why Brian has started using Cursor again
- Practical tips for prompting AI more effectively
- Behind-the-scenes of Brian’s new side project
- How to stay relevant as a designer in an AI world
- + a *lot* more
- Agentation and Dialkit for frontend (agentation.com/) , joshpuckett.me/dialkit)
- Cursor and Conductor for coding (https://conductor.build/)
- Brian’s side project Shiori (https://shiori.sh/))
- Max Schoening nerd snipes Brian (https://x.com/mschoening)
- Karri’s issue tracking is dead article (https://linear.app/next)
Dive is where the best designers never stop learning 🤿
🌐 dive.club
🐦 twitter.com/joindiveclub
Now you can join advanced courses taught by the top designers to help you take a huge leap forward in your career 💪
Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:41 Joining Notion's design team
6:42 Designing with AI as a material
12:59 Brian's Notion prototyping playground
18:12 How design workflows have evolved
23:33 How Brian's tool stack has evolved
28:37 Strategies for coding with AI
34:06 Brian's bookmarking tool Shiori
43:18 AI is not magic
49:42 How Brian thinks about career strategy for designers
