Uploaded January 2024 | Updated September 2026, 5 hours ago

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This extra clip from our conversation with Katie Herzog was created for our paid Listener Community members but we are making it available here on YouTube while the podcast is in hiatus.

In this clip, Sasha and Stella continue the conversation with Katie Herzog by asking “how do you talk about gender issues in real life?” Katie’s core advice is “read the room” but she has a lot of other insights and experiences to share, from her own life, as well!

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