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Big companies are built to deliver, but in a world where technology shifts daily and customer needs change overnight, delivery alone isn’t enough. Business building has to become part of the culture.
In this episode, Jimmy Allen sits down with Tanuja Randery, Managing Director of Amazon Web Services in EMEA, to explore how AWS scales without becoming a bureaucracy. From codifying leadership principles to democratizing challenges, Tanuja shares how AWS sustains speed and empowers a rare but vital community she calls “scalers” - the people who turn bold ideas into repeatable models.
We’re also joined by Erika Sorow, Bain Partner and former President of Sweaty Betty, who reveals how improv comedy became a crash course in collaboration, creativity, and scaling ideas.
Together, these stories show why business building isn’t a distraction from delivery, it’s the growth engine. And why the real art of scaling comes from creating cultures where curiosity, experimentation, and even mistakes fuel speed and innovation.
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How to Identify Great Scalers - Blog (bain.com/insights/how-to-identify-great-scalers-fm-blog/)
Scaling Businesses as a Team - Blog (bain.com/insights/scaling-businesses-as-a-team-fm-blog/)
The Best Practices of Great Scalers - Blog (bain.com/insights/the-best-practices-of-great-scalers-fm-blog/)
Ruth Handcock - How to Preserve the Essence of Founder-Driven Companies - Video (bain.com/insights/how-to-preserve-the-essence-of-founder-driven-companies-video/)
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About Founders Mentality
Founder’s Mentality: The CEO Sessions is a leadership podcast hosted by executive advisor and bestselling author Jimmy Allen.
Each episode features candid conversations with top CEOs, from Audible to Walmart to AWS, as well as artists, comedians, and other unconventional thinkers. Together, they share the lessons that shaped their growth, the “aha” moments that redefined their work, and the surprising ways reinvention happens at every level.
Whether you’re a CEO, an aspiring leader, or simply curious about leadership, influence, and business at scale, this podcast will challenge and inspire you, one story at a time.
About the Host:
Jimmy Allen is an Advisory Partner at Bain & Company with over 35 years’ experience advising leading organizations. He’s the author of multiple best-selling books on growth and leadership and the host and founder of Bain’s Global CEO Community Forum. Jimmy is a regular speaker at global business events, including the World Economic Forum, and serves on the Botswana Economic Advisory Council. Outside of consulting, Jimmy started his own record label (Abubilla Music) in 2008 and supports Singing Wells, a project dedicated to preserving Kenyan village music.
Bain & Company:
Founder’s Mentality: The CEO Sessions is brought to you by Bain & Company, a global consultancy trusted by the world’s most influential business leaders. With decades of experience guiding organizations through growth, transformation, and leadership development, Bain’s executive insights offer what it takes to lead at scale.
Big companies are built to deliver, but in a world where technology shifts daily and customer needs change overnight, delivery alone isn’t enough. Business building has to become part of the culture.
In this episode, Jimmy Allen sits down with Tanuja Randery, Managing Director of Amazon Web Services in EMEA, to explore how AWS scales without becoming a bureaucracy. From codifying leadership principles to democratizing challenges, Tanuja shares how AWS sustains speed and empowers a rare but vital community she calls “scalers” - the people who turn bold ideas into repeatable models.
We’re also joined by Erika Sorow, Bain Partner and former President of Sweaty Betty, who reveals how improv comedy became a crash course in collaboration, creativity, and scaling ideas.
Together, these stories show why business building isn’t a distraction from delivery, it’s the growth engine. And why the real art of scaling comes from creating cultures where curiosity, experimentation, and even mistakes fuel speed and innovation.
Join the Conversation:
To learn more check out the Founders Mentality website or our CEO Insights hub: bain.com/founders-mentality
bain.com/insights/topics/ceo-agenda
Learn More:
Four Ways CEOs Can Spur Innovation amid Turbulence - Blog (bain.com/insights/four-ways-ceos-can-spur-innovation-amid-turbulence/)
How to Identify Great Scalers - Blog (bain.com/insights/how-to-identify-great-scalers-fm-blog/)
Scaling Businesses as a Team - Blog (bain.com/insights/scaling-businesses-as-a-team-fm-blog/)
The Best Practices of Great Scalers - Blog (bain.com/insights/the-best-practices-of-great-scalers-fm-blog/)
Ruth Handcock - How to Preserve the Essence of Founder-Driven Companies - Video (bain.com/insights/how-to-preserve-the-essence-of-founder-driven-companies-video/)
Bain & Company LinkedIn (linkedin.com/company/bain-and-company/)
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Jimmy Allen LinkedIn (linkedin.com/in/james-allen-3442b/)
Tanuja Randery LinkedIn (linkedin.com/in/tanuja-randery)
Erika Serow Profile (bain.com/our-team/erika-serow/)
About Founders Mentality
Founder’s Mentality: The CEO Sessions is a leadership podcast hosted by executive advisor and bestselling author Jimmy Allen.
Each episode features candid conversations with top CEOs, from Audible to Walmart to AWS, as well as artists, comedians, and other unconventional thinkers. Together, they share the lessons that shaped their growth, the “aha” moments that redefined their work, and the surprising ways reinvention happens at every level.
Whether you’re a CEO, an aspiring leader, or simply curious about leadership, influence, and business at scale, this podcast will challenge and inspire you, one story at a time.
About the Host:
Jimmy Allen is an Advisory Partner at Bain & Company with over 35 years’ experience advising leading organizations. He’s the author of multiple best-selling books on growth and leadership and the host and founder of Bain’s Global CEO Community Forum. Jimmy is a regular speaker at global business events, including the World Economic Forum, and serves on the Botswana Economic Advisory Council. Outside of consulting, Jimmy started his own record label (Abubilla Music) in 2008 and supports Singing Wells, a project dedicated to preserving Kenyan village music.
Bain & Company:
Founder’s Mentality: The CEO Sessions is brought to you by Bain & Company, a global consultancy trusted by the world’s most influential business leaders. With decades of experience guiding organizations through growth, transformation, and leadership development, Bain’s executive insights offer what it takes to lead at scale.


![Kevin Lobo, Stryker: The $1.6B Bet That Changed an Industry
What does it take to back a decision that may take years to prove itself?
Soon after becoming CEO of Stryker, Kevin Lobo backed a $1.6 billion acquisition of Mako, a loss-making robotics company many customers, investors and industry experts believed was unnecessary. The deal would reshape both orthopedic surgery and Stryker’s growth trajectory.
Join host Jimmy Allen of Bain & Company as Kevin explains why he saw asymmetric upside in robotic-assisted surgery, how he sustained his conviction through disappointing early results, and how one bold bet became the foundation for a repeatable acquisition model spanning more than 60 deals.
Kevin and Jimmy also explore the tension between autonomy and scale. How do you capture the advantages of size without inviting bureaucracy? What should remain decentralized, and where can shared capabilities create a real edge?
This is a conversation about repeatable growth, the cost of complexity, and the CEO’s role in helping leaders think like founders.
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EPISODE CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
01:35 The potential in robotics that no else saw
02:27 Taking the $1.6 billion proposal to the board
03:28 Why Stryker had to act immediately
05:48 The hard part begins after the board says yes
06:36 Telling Wall Street about the slow first quarter
08:05 Leading through the time lag
08:32 Winning over employees and building M&A credibility
09:37 Cold-calling Larry Culp, former CEO of Danaher, for advice
10:18 Turning mistakes into an integration playbook
11:16 Discovering the Stryker way”
13:09 Are you the right parent for the company you acquire?
15:12 Building a repeatable acquisition machine
17:09 The outer game and inner game of growth
18:14 Preserving autonomy across 22 business units
20:21 Good complexity versus bad complexity
21:00 What is the CEOs job in a decentralized company?
22:52 Creating a team of entrepreneurs
24:18 The real meaning of conviction
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