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“In a free society, some are guilty, but all are responsible.” A mystic, a 20th-century religious intellectual, a social change agent, Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel marched alongside Martin Luther King Jr., famously saying afterwards that he felt his legs were praying. Heschel’s poetic theological writings are still read and widely studied today. His faith was as much about “radical amazement” as it was about certainty. And he embodied the passionate social engagement of the prophets, drawing on wisdom at once provocative and nourishing. We speak with Arnold Eisen, chancellor of Jewish Theological Seminary — where Eisen taught from 1945 until his death in 1972 — about the rabbi’s thought and legacy. (Original Air Date: June 5, 2008)
About the Guest:
Arnold Eisen is chancellor of the Jewish Theological Seminary in New York City. His books include “The Jew Within: Self, Family, and Community in America,” “Rethinking Modern Judaism,” and “Conservative Judaism Today and Tomorrow. He also keeps a blog called "On My Mind."
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“In a free society, some are guilty, but all are responsible.” A mystic, a 20th-century religious intellectual, a social change agent, Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel marched alongside Martin Luther King Jr., famously saying afterwards that he felt his legs were praying. Heschel’s poetic theological writings are still read and widely studied today. His faith was as much about “radical amazement” as it was about certainty. And he embodied the passionate social engagement of the prophets, drawing on wisdom at once provocative and nourishing. We speak with Arnold Eisen, chancellor of Jewish Theological Seminary — where Eisen taught from 1945 until his death in 1972 — about the rabbi’s thought and legacy. (Original Air Date: June 5, 2008)
About the Guest:
Arnold Eisen is chancellor of the Jewish Theological Seminary in New York City. His books include “The Jew Within: Self, Family, and Community in America,” “Rethinking Modern Judaism,” and “Conservative Judaism Today and Tomorrow. He also keeps a blog called "On My Mind."
Visit our website to read the transcript, download the episode, or listen to the unedited interview: onbeing.org/programs/arnold-eisen-the-opposite-of-good-is-indifference-sep2017
Visit our On Being Classics Library, where this episode is featured:
onbeing.org/libraries/classics
STAY IN TOUCH
Facebook: facebook.com/onbeing
Twitter: twitter.com/onbeing
Instagram: instagram.com/onbeing
Newsletter: onbeing.org/newsletter
OUR PODCASTS
On Being with Krista Tippett: onbeing.org/series/podcast
This Movie Changed Me: onbeing.org/series/this-movie-changed-me
Becoming Wise: onbeing.org/series/becoming-wise
Image by Linda A. Cicero / Stanford News Service





![In the Room with Matthew Sanford and Krista Tippett
Watch this special in-studio recording of Krista Tippetts 2006 interview with renowned yoga teacher Matthew Sanford. A wondrous, buried treasure from the 20-year On Being archive.
Be prepared, as you listen to what follows, to take in subtleties and gracefulness youve never before pondered — or tried to feel in yourself — in the interplay between your mind and your body.
Matthew has an immensely energetic physical presence. He has been paralyzed from the chest down since a car accident in 1978. But he likes to say that his experience is only more extreme, not so different, from that of everyone else. Hes written, We are all leaving our bodies — this is the inevitable arc of living. Death cannot be avoided; neither can the inward silence that comes with the aging process. Matthew’s intricate knowledge of that inward silence, which he was forced to befriend after the noisy connections which most of us take for granted were severed — it’s revelatory. So is his insistence that it’s not possible to live more deeply in your body — in all its grace and all its flaws — without becoming more compassionate towards all of life. And: if you do yoga, you will never think about what it is affecting inside you in the same way again.
Krista sat with Matthew Sanford just after hed published his beautiful book Waking: A Memoir of Trauma and Transcendence.
[This interview is unedited and uses autogenerated closed captioning. You can find the edited and produced interview with music and full closed captioning in the On Being episode Matthew Sanford — The Bodys Grace. Listen here: https://youtu.be/zFP5EknSJt8 ] In the Room with Matthew Sanford and Krista Tippett](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hJ5DPLuChKw/mqdefault.jpg)




