Uploaded December 2019 | Updated September 2026, 22 minutes ago
Esther Perel is a therapist who has changed our discourse about sexuality and coupledom. Her wisdom often shines through the language she uses to navigate the human theater of love and relationships. We collaborated with Carissa Potter from People I’ve Loved to compile an illustrated lexicon of some of the terms she uses in her On Being interview, from “erotic intelligence” to “play.”
Delve more deeply into Esther Perel's wisdom in her 2019 On Being conversation with Krista, “The Erotic Is an Antidote to Death.”
—Listen on YouTube: youtu.be/FIO5jmDw7Rg?si=z4r60L7n6efNyw0l
—Listen at On Being: onbeing.org/programs/esther-perel-the-erotic-is-an-antidote-to-death
Illustration by: Carissa Potter, People I’ve Loved peopleiveloved.com
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Esther Perel is a therapist who has changed our discourse about sexuality and coupledom. Her wisdom often shines through the language she uses to navigate the human theater of love and relationships. We collaborated with Carissa Potter from People I’ve Loved to compile an illustrated lexicon of some of the terms she uses in her On Being interview, from “erotic intelligence” to “play.”
Delve more deeply into Esther Perel's wisdom in her 2019 On Being conversation with Krista, “The Erotic Is an Antidote to Death.”
—Listen on YouTube: youtu.be/FIO5jmDw7Rg?si=z4r60L7n6efNyw0l
—Listen at On Being: onbeing.org/programs/esther-perel-the-erotic-is-an-antidote-to-death
Illustration by: Carissa Potter, People I’ve Loved peopleiveloved.com
ABOUT THE ON BEING PROJECT
An adventure in the mystery and the art of living
A home for shaping your presence in a tender, tumultuous world
A companion to the pleasure in thinking deeply with others
A calling to be part of the generative story of our time
THE PODCAST
Twenty years of culture-shifting classics: Mary Oliver, Desmond Tutu, Thich Nhat Hanh, and many many more. We can be found in ears, and in conversations that matter, around the world.
On Being with Krista Tippett: onbeing.org/series/podcast
STAY CONNECTED
Instagram: instagram.com/onbeing
Facebook: facebook.com/onbeing
The Pause Saturday email newsletter: onbeing.org/newsletter



![In the Room with Matthew Sanford and Krista Tippett
Watch this special in-studio recording of Krista Tippetts 2006 interview with renowned yoga teacher Matthew Sanford. A wondrous, buried treasure from the 20-year On Being archive.
Be prepared, as you listen to what follows, to take in subtleties and gracefulness youve never before pondered — or tried to feel in yourself — in the interplay between your mind and your body.
Matthew has an immensely energetic physical presence. He has been paralyzed from the chest down since a car accident in 1978. But he likes to say that his experience is only more extreme, not so different, from that of everyone else. Hes written, We are all leaving our bodies — this is the inevitable arc of living. Death cannot be avoided; neither can the inward silence that comes with the aging process. Matthew’s intricate knowledge of that inward silence, which he was forced to befriend after the noisy connections which most of us take for granted were severed — it’s revelatory. So is his insistence that it’s not possible to live more deeply in your body — in all its grace and all its flaws — without becoming more compassionate towards all of life. And: if you do yoga, you will never think about what it is affecting inside you in the same way again.
Krista sat with Matthew Sanford just after hed published his beautiful book Waking: A Memoir of Trauma and Transcendence.
[This interview is unedited and uses autogenerated closed captioning. You can find the edited and produced interview with music and full closed captioning in the On Being episode Matthew Sanford — The Bodys Grace. Listen here: https://youtu.be/zFP5EknSJt8 ] In the Room with Matthew Sanford and Krista Tippett](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hJ5DPLuChKw/mqdefault.jpg)






