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Graham Platner has a lot of things in his favor as he runs for a US Senate seat in Maine: it’s an off-election year, the president’s approval rating is slumping and dragging down the whole GOP. Should be a breeze as soon as Platner gets through this latest scandal.
Guests: Danielle Kurtzleben, White House Correspondent for NPR and “Masculinity politics expert.” Ken Klippenstein, independent journalist covering national security and U.S. politics.
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Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Madeline Ducharme, Patrick Fort, Rob Gunther and Paige Osburn. Video production by Rob Gunther.
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Graham Platner has a lot of things in his favor as he runs for a US Senate seat in Maine: it’s an off-election year, the president’s approval rating is slumping and dragging down the whole GOP. Should be a breeze as soon as Platner gets through this latest scandal.
Guests: Danielle Kurtzleben, White House Correspondent for NPR and “Masculinity politics expert.” Ken Klippenstein, independent journalist covering national security and U.S. politics.
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Podcast production by Evan Campbell, Madeline Ducharme, Patrick Fort, Rob Gunther and Paige Osburn. Video production by Rob Gunther.
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