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In this conversation, Robert Bosnak, a Jungian analyst who has studied alchemy for 40 years, shares insights into alchemical psychology and how its various phases connect to our own individuation process.
Some of the alchemical phases relate to colors, with “yellow” being a stage of fermentation that takes place between the silver-white stage of reflection and the red stage of action. Action becomes the act of creativity, states Robert, and ultimately as transformation occurs, you begin to realize it’s not the insights you gain through understanding that go into the world, but rather your being that has been affected by the insights.
Robert Bosnak is leading an online lecture series on “Yellowing and the Stone: Fermentation and the Goal of the Opus,” hosted by Jung Platform. This course starts September 15th, 2016
Details and registration info for the Jung Platform course: depthpsychologyalliance.com/events/alchemical-psychology-course-yellowing-and-the-stone-fermentation
Visit the free online community for Jungian and Depth psychologies, Depth Psychology Alliance: depthpsychologyalliance.com
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In this conversation, Robert Bosnak, a Jungian analyst who has studied alchemy for 40 years, shares insights into alchemical psychology and how its various phases connect to our own individuation process.
Some of the alchemical phases relate to colors, with “yellow” being a stage of fermentation that takes place between the silver-white stage of reflection and the red stage of action. Action becomes the act of creativity, states Robert, and ultimately as transformation occurs, you begin to realize it’s not the insights you gain through understanding that go into the world, but rather your being that has been affected by the insights.
Robert Bosnak is leading an online lecture series on “Yellowing and the Stone: Fermentation and the Goal of the Opus,” hosted by Jung Platform. This course starts September 15th, 2016
Details and registration info for the Jung Platform course: depthpsychologyalliance.com/events/alchemical-psychology-course-yellowing-and-the-stone-fermentation
Visit the free online community for Jungian and Depth psychologies, Depth Psychology Alliance: depthpsychologyalliance.com
See other interviews for Depth Insights™: depthinsights.com/pages/radio.htm


![Navigating the Depths: How the Psychoid and Unus Mundus Can Help Us Transcend Trauma
An Interview with Ann Belford Ulanov, Ph.D., L.H.D., by Bonnie Bright, Ph.D.
Ann Belford Ulanov, Ph.D., L.H.D., is a Jungian analyst in private practice in New York City, a member of the Jungian Analytic Association, and former Christiane Brooks Johnson Professor of Psychiatry and Religion at Union Theological Seminary. An internationally known lecturer and prolific author, among her many articles and books are the highly acclaimed Cinderella and Her Sisters: The Envied and the Envying; Spiritual Aspects of Clinical Work; The Wisdom of the Psyche; The Unshuttered Heart: Opening to Aliveness/ Deadness in the Self; The Living God and Our Living Psyche; and Madness and Creativity.
Ann’s most recent book, The Psychoid, Soul and Psyche: Piercing Space-Time Barriers, explores Carl Gustav Jung’s concept of the psychoid. “Psychoid refers to unconscious processes that are unrepresentable in word or image,” Ann says. “We live them, but we don’t know about them. And they can make us feel mad, not angry, but crazy, and I believe they can also be a third source of healing.” She goes on to describe psychoid as “this unrepresentable level of the unconscious processes. [Jung] would say the archetype, for example, is of a psychoid nature, meaning by that, you don’t experience it directly. You experience it through derivatives. An emotion will grip you; a behavior will possess you or compel you. Images would arise or attract you.”
There is a connection between experiencing the psychoid and synchronicities, those “meaningful coincidences.” [1] Ann recalls that Jung defined a synchronistic experience as “non-causal elements coincide and bestow on us, or impact us with an experience of deep meaningfulness, and we aren’t clear whether the meaning exists external to us, so it feels it does, but somehow we participate in it.” Furthermore, Ann says, “the psychoid and synchronicity evoke each other, and both, for Jung, have moments of making you feel connected to what he called the unus mundus, the one world, the larger surround, not just in which we live, but in which life is.”
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