Uploaded July 2026 | Updated September 2026, 6 hours ago
Jürgen Schmidhuber is an AI pioneer and professor whom The Guardian has called "the father of AI." Schmidhuber joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss whether current AI techniques can actually reach AGI. Tune in to hear him spar with Greg Brockman's case for scaling GPT models alone, argue that AI has been capable of pain and consciousness since the early 1990s, and predict the collapse of today's trillion-dollar AI spending. We also cover the hardware bottleneck holding back robots, free will in a computable universe, and uploading human minds into machines. Hit play for a wide-ranging conversation with one of the researchers whose ideas built the foundation of modern AI.
Watch the full documentary here: gravitee.io/ai-agent-documentary
Chapters
00:00 The Future of AI: Potential and Progress
05:56 The Role of Hardware in AI Development
11:10 AGI: Current Techniques vs. Future Innovations
19:31 The Little Guy: Who Benefits from AI?
32:01 AI and Emotions: Can Machines Feel Pain?
35:49 The Future of Emotion in AI
39:24 Understanding Pain and Fear in Machines
42:36 Consciousness and AI: A Complex Relationship
52:20 The Evolution of Human Identity in the Age of AI
54:34 The Concept of Free Will in a Deterministic Universe
Jürgen Schmidhuber is an AI pioneer and professor whom The Guardian has called "the father of AI." Schmidhuber joins Big Technology Podcast to discuss whether current AI techniques can actually reach AGI. Tune in to hear him spar with Greg Brockman's case for scaling GPT models alone, argue that AI has been capable of pain and consciousness since the early 1990s, and predict the collapse of today's trillion-dollar AI spending. We also cover the hardware bottleneck holding back robots, free will in a computable universe, and uploading human minds into machines. Hit play for a wide-ranging conversation with one of the researchers whose ideas built the foundation of modern AI.
Watch the full documentary here: gravitee.io/ai-agent-documentary
Chapters
00:00 The Future of AI: Potential and Progress
05:56 The Role of Hardware in AI Development
11:10 AGI: Current Techniques vs. Future Innovations
19:31 The Little Guy: Who Benefits from AI?
32:01 AI and Emotions: Can Machines Feel Pain?
35:49 The Future of Emotion in AI
39:24 Understanding Pain and Fear in Machines
42:36 Consciousness and AI: A Complex Relationship
52:20 The Evolution of Human Identity in the Age of AI
54:34 The Concept of Free Will in a Deterministic Universe
