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As AI accelerates the digital economy, the new constraint is physical: housing, power, and infrastructure.
On The McKinsey Podcast, Laura Hines-Pierce, co-CEO of Hines, explains why execution—not capital—will define the next era of value creation. She joins McKinsey’s North American Chair Eric Kutcher to discuss a widening gap between digital ambition and physical capacity.
From a global housing shortage to an emergency energy and infrastructure supercycle, the conversation explores what it takes to build at scale—and why labor, permitting, and supply chain are now the true bottlenecks. They also reflect on leadership, organizational change, and preparing a 70-year-old firm for a more volatile, fast-changing future.
*Chapters:*
00:00 – Intro: AI is driving an infrastructure boom
02:04 – AI, housing, and the energy infrastructure supercycle
03:29 – Why execution, not capital, is the real bottleneck
05:22 – Why AI still needs electricians, engineers, and skilled labor
10:24 – Housing prices in an inflationary environment
13:05 – Leading through uncertainty as a third-generation CEO
20:30 – Why AI is a people challenge, not a tech challenge
In this recurring series on The McKinsey Podcast, Kutcher speaks with top CEOs about the practice of leadership. The McKinsey Podcast is regularly cohosted by Lucia Rahilly and Roberta Fusaro.
About Eric Kutcher: mckinsey.com/our-people/eric-kutcher
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As AI accelerates the digital economy, the new constraint is physical: housing, power, and infrastructure.
On The McKinsey Podcast, Laura Hines-Pierce, co-CEO of Hines, explains why execution—not capital—will define the next era of value creation. She joins McKinsey’s North American Chair Eric Kutcher to discuss a widening gap between digital ambition and physical capacity.
From a global housing shortage to an emergency energy and infrastructure supercycle, the conversation explores what it takes to build at scale—and why labor, permitting, and supply chain are now the true bottlenecks. They also reflect on leadership, organizational change, and preparing a 70-year-old firm for a more volatile, fast-changing future.
*Chapters:*
00:00 – Intro: AI is driving an infrastructure boom
02:04 – AI, housing, and the energy infrastructure supercycle
03:29 – Why execution, not capital, is the real bottleneck
05:22 – Why AI still needs electricians, engineers, and skilled labor
10:24 – Housing prices in an inflationary environment
13:05 – Leading through uncertainty as a third-generation CEO
20:30 – Why AI is a people challenge, not a tech challenge
In this recurring series on The McKinsey Podcast, Kutcher speaks with top CEOs about the practice of leadership. The McKinsey Podcast is regularly cohosted by Lucia Rahilly and Roberta Fusaro.
About Eric Kutcher: mckinsey.com/our-people/eric-kutcher
Any unanswered questions about this episode? Send them our way at: TheMcKinseyPodcast@mckinsey.com
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