Uploaded May 2026 | Updated September 2026, 3 weeks ago

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The U.S. Federal Reserve will get a new chairman this month, and it's likely to be Kevin Warsh, a financier and former Fed governor. Adam and Cameron discuss Warsh's economic ideas and the impact he'll likely have on interest rates and the economy as a whole. Also on the show: The economics of Michael Jackson.

0:00 Intro
0:45 Kevin Warsh
30:35 Michael Jackson

Foreign Policy economics columnist Adam Tooze, a history professor and a popular author, is encyclopedic about basically everything: from the COVID shutdown, to climate change, to pasta sauce. On FP’s hit podcast, Tooze and FP deputy editor Cameron Abadi look at two data points each week that explain the world: one drawn from the week’s headlines and the other from just about anywhere else Tooze takes us.

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