Uploaded June 2025 | Updated September 2026, 1 week ago
Send a love message (buzzsprout.com/2229994/fan_mail/new)
Jessica Böhme is a sustainability scientist, transformation researcher, and founder of the Institute for Practical Eco Philosophy. Jessica shares her journey of exploring the connection between inner transformation and outer change, and how this quest has influenced her personal and professional life. Andrea and Jessica delve into the concept of living philosophically, the role of relational philosophies, and how they impact sustainability. They also discuss the challenges Jessica faced in academia, the significance of personal practices, and her innovative idea of 'philosophy gyms' aimed at integrating philosophy into everyday life for better ecological and business practices in the engineering world. Jessica also talks about her unique lifestyle choices, her artwork, and the broader implications of living a thoughtful, engaged life.
00:00 Introduction to Inner and Outer Change
00:29 Philosophy as a Way of Life
01:59 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
02:04 Introducing Jessica Böhme
02:37 Exploring Relational Philosophy
03:28 Philosophy Gyms and Ecological Love
04:21 The Knowledge-Action Gap
06:50 Jessica's Academic Journey
09:42 Inner Transformation and Sustainability
10:01 Mechanistic vs. Relational Worldview
12:34 Challenges in Sustainability Science
13:39 The Complexity of Relational Thinking
32:05 Philosophy as a Living Process
37:13 The Paradox of Science and Health
38:13 Personal and Planetary Health
39:43 Patterns in Health and Consumption
40:47 The Role of Awareness and Choice
42:28 Practical Eco Philosophy
44:04 Micro Habits and Daily Practices
48:34 Living Philosophically
59:44 The Concept of Wild
01:01:04 Art and Expression
01:04:51 Philosophy Gyms and Experiments
01:08:59 Final Thoughts and Farewell
Jessica's Blog (substack.com/home/post/p-165244698)
Institute for Practical ekoPhilosophy (institute-pep.com/)
Pierre Hadot: Philosophy as a Way of Life (ascetology.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/pierre-hadot-philosophy-as-a-way-of-life-spiritual-exercises-from-socrates-to-foucault-1.pdf)
Karen Barad (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Barad)
Support the show (loveandphilosophy.com/giving-page)
Buy Holding Paradox: The Navigational Approach to Mind and Consciousness (simonandschuster.net/books/Holding-Paradox/Andrea-Hiott/9781917991636) by Andrea Hiott
Sign up for Making Ways newsletter and projects. (making-ways.com/)
Please rate and review with love.
YouTube (youtube.com/@waymaking23) , Facebook (facebook.com/waymaking/) , Instagram (instagram.com/waymaking23/) , Substack (lovephilosophy.substack.com/) .
Send a love message (buzzsprout.com/2229994/fan_mail/new)
Jessica Böhme is a sustainability scientist, transformation researcher, and founder of the Institute for Practical Eco Philosophy. Jessica shares her journey of exploring the connection between inner transformation and outer change, and how this quest has influenced her personal and professional life. Andrea and Jessica delve into the concept of living philosophically, the role of relational philosophies, and how they impact sustainability. They also discuss the challenges Jessica faced in academia, the significance of personal practices, and her innovative idea of 'philosophy gyms' aimed at integrating philosophy into everyday life for better ecological and business practices in the engineering world. Jessica also talks about her unique lifestyle choices, her artwork, and the broader implications of living a thoughtful, engaged life.
00:00 Introduction to Inner and Outer Change
00:29 Philosophy as a Way of Life
01:59 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
02:04 Introducing Jessica Böhme
02:37 Exploring Relational Philosophy
03:28 Philosophy Gyms and Ecological Love
04:21 The Knowledge-Action Gap
06:50 Jessica's Academic Journey
09:42 Inner Transformation and Sustainability
10:01 Mechanistic vs. Relational Worldview
12:34 Challenges in Sustainability Science
13:39 The Complexity of Relational Thinking
32:05 Philosophy as a Living Process
37:13 The Paradox of Science and Health
38:13 Personal and Planetary Health
39:43 Patterns in Health and Consumption
40:47 The Role of Awareness and Choice
42:28 Practical Eco Philosophy
44:04 Micro Habits and Daily Practices
48:34 Living Philosophically
59:44 The Concept of Wild
01:01:04 Art and Expression
01:04:51 Philosophy Gyms and Experiments
01:08:59 Final Thoughts and Farewell
Jessica's Blog (substack.com/home/post/p-165244698)
Institute for Practical ekoPhilosophy (institute-pep.com/)
Pierre Hadot: Philosophy as a Way of Life (ascetology.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/pierre-hadot-philosophy-as-a-way-of-life-spiritual-exercises-from-socrates-to-foucault-1.pdf)
Karen Barad (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Barad)
Support the show (loveandphilosophy.com/giving-page)
Buy Holding Paradox: The Navigational Approach to Mind and Consciousness (simonandschuster.net/books/Holding-Paradox/Andrea-Hiott/9781917991636) by Andrea Hiott
Sign up for Making Ways newsletter and projects. (making-ways.com/)
Please rate and review with love.
YouTube (youtube.com/@waymaking23) , Facebook (facebook.com/waymaking/) , Instagram (instagram.com/waymaking23/) , Substack (lovephilosophy.substack.com/) .









![#52: We Are Not Machines! Agency & Science beyond Computationalism with Fotis and Yogi (Johannes ...
Send a love message (https://www.buzzsprout.com/2229994/fan_mail/new)
#paradox of #love and #agency Yogi aka. Johannes Jaeger like to fashion himself as a natural philosopher. After having his own lab and being the director of an institute in Vienna he left academia for pursuing intellectual production independently. He is part of an science-art collective in Vienna called The Zone. His focus has been primarily focused on his book, Beyond the Age of #Machines, which he had been publishing incrementally in digital form. Fotis Tsiroukis is a cross-disciplinary researcher interested in the intersection between humanities, science and new media. Also a cyborg...
Please join the Substack (about:invalid#zCSafez) or Support us directly (https://loveandphilosophy.com/giving-page) .
Johannes Jaeger (https://www.johannesjaeger.eu/)
The Zone (https://the-zone.at/the-zone/)
LinkedIn Fotis (https://www.linkedin.com/in/fotis-tsiroukis-9136b11b6/?originalSubdomain=uk)
Research Fotis (https://www.sts.sot.tum.de/en/sts/people/researchers/fotis-tsiroukis/)
Giving Page (https://loveandphilosophy.com/giving-page)
In this episode of the Love & Philosophy Podcast, host Fotis engages in a deep and
thought-provoking conversation with Johannes Yogi Jaeger, a freelance scholar and biologist-turned-philosopher. Yogi critiques the dominant machine worldview that has shaped modernity, arguing that it has led human civilization to a dangerous cliff edge. He advocates for a shift towards a process-oriented, relational metaphysics that emphasizes the interconnectedness of living systems and the limitations of computational models. Yogi also discusses the pitfalls of AI, the dangers of technological hubris, and the need for a new kind of science that reconnects us with reality. The conversation touches on themes of agency, the limitations of a computationalist worldview and the importance of tough love in guiding humanity towards a more sustainable and meaningful future.
#computationalism
1. [00:00:00] Snippets
2. [00:02:10] Introduction (by Fotis)
3. [00:10:00] Yogi as a Natural Philosopher
4. [00:13:00] Critique of Modern Science
5. [00:14:30] Yogi’s Journey of Dissilusionment: from Molecular Biologist to Freelance
Theorist
6. [00:20:00] The Problem with the Academic System
7. [00:25:00] The Need for a New Metaphysics
8. [00:28:00] Getting Back in Touch with Reality
9. [00:32:00] Postmodernism & Metamodernism
10. [00:36:00] The Danger of Technological Hubris
11. [00:40:00] Complexity Science and the Pitfalls of the Computationalist Wordlview
12. [00:45:00] The Illusion of Total Control
13. [00:49:00] The Misuse of AI
14. [00:54:00] Preping for the Collapse of this Civilization
15. [00:57:00] AI Agents arent Real Agents
16. [01:05:00] The Illusion of AI Sentience
17. [01:10:00] The Free Energy Principle and Reductionism
18. [01:20:00] The Importance of Relevance Realization
19. [01:25:00] The Role of Relationality and Connection
20. [01:30:00] Tough Love for Humanity
21. [01:35:00] Closing Thoughts
Yogis Theory Paper on Dynamical (about:invalid#zCSafez)
Metamodernism Primer (https://www.brendangrahamdempsey.com/post/metamodernisms-a-cheat-sheet)
Bluesky:
@lovephilosophy.substack.com
Support the show (https://loveandphilosophy.com/giving-page)
Buy Holding Paradox: The Navigational Approach to Mind and Consciousness (https://www.simonandschuster.net/books/Holding-Paradox/Andrea-Hiott/9781917991636) by Andrea Hiott
Sign up for Making Ways newsletter and projects. (https://making-ways.com/)
Please rate and review with love.
YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@waymaking23) , Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/waymaking/) , Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/waymaking23/) , Substack (https://lovephilosophy.substack.com/) . #52: We Are Not Machines! Agency & Science beyond Computationalism with Fotis and Yogi (Johannes ...](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/z1zmWdagWZ0/mqdefault.jpg)
