Uploaded September 2026 | Updated September 2026, 2 weeks ago
Is the world big enough for standard Hollywood blockbuster adaptations of Homer’s work and artsier, brainier takes on the fall of Troy? Can Wolfgang Petersen’s TROY and Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey co-exist? This super-sized Real Talk segment explores our feelings about Petersen’s epic AND also features a chat about Nolan’s smash-hit!
TIMELINE
00:01:26 Careful, boy
00:02:19 Real Talk
00:45:16 The Odyssey
01:28:08 The Future & Patreon Stuff
- Interested in more Contrarians goodness? Join THE CONTRARIANS SUPPLEMENTS on our Patreon Page! (patreon.com/contrarianprime) Deleted clips, extended plugs, bonus episodes free from the Tomatometer shackles… It’s everything a Contrarians devotee would want!
- Our YouTube page (youtube.com/@contrarianprime) is live! Get some visual Contrarians delight with our Contrarians Warm-Ups (youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDVkVTb56Rey9AmjdpFToARV8Jmg-p8mK) and other fun videos!
- Contrarians Merch is finally here! Check out our RED BUBBLE MERCH PAGE (redbubble.com/people/thecontrarians/shop) and buy yourself something nice that’s emblazoned with one of our four different designs!
- THE FESTIVE YEARS have been letting us use their music for years now and they are amazing. You can check out their work on Spotify (open.spotify.com/artist/6No9NauLFIFkXOVkRzp5bQ) , on Facebook (facebook.com/TheFestiveYears/) or on their very own website (thefestiveyears.com/) .
- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! (youtube.com/c/latenightgrin) You might even spot Alex there from time to time.
- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemoniospe on Instagram (instagram.com/mildemoniospe/?hl=en) or you can email him at mildemonios@hotmail.com in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO (https://canalb.pe/watch/valor-agregado/) . Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website (http://www.mildemonios.pe/) . He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL (arcadiamediatica.com/libro/marginal_44382) . Ask him about it!
Up next, our FIRF journey takes us to Chile, where an infamous dictator is revealed to be a supernatural creature in EL CONDE (youtu.be/YGvX7ma7Xnk?si=-z1gkr6jgn57Wb1m) ! And the episode after that will tackle the unlikely Jim Cameron / Robert Rodriguez team-up, ALITA: BATTLE ANGEL (youtu.be/w7pYhpJaJW8?si=IgHSQ8Mcm__BMiK-) ! In the meantime, let us know what you thought of The Other Side of the Wind: Is it even remotely interested in appealing to a casual viewer? Would it have been better to let the mystery of the final Welles movie go on forever? Will this ever play at midnight screenings anywhere? E-mail us at wearethecontrarians@gmail.com or share your thoughts with us on Threads (threads.net/@contrarianprime) or BlueSky (https://bsky.app/profile/contrarianprime.bsky.social) !
Is the world big enough for standard Hollywood blockbuster adaptations of Homer’s work and artsier, brainier takes on the fall of Troy? Can Wolfgang Petersen’s TROY and Christopher Nolan’s The Odyssey co-exist? This super-sized Real Talk segment explores our feelings about Petersen’s epic AND also features a chat about Nolan’s smash-hit!
TIMELINE
00:01:26 Careful, boy
00:02:19 Real Talk
00:45:16 The Odyssey
01:28:08 The Future & Patreon Stuff
- Interested in more Contrarians goodness? Join THE CONTRARIANS SUPPLEMENTS on our Patreon Page! (patreon.com/contrarianprime) Deleted clips, extended plugs, bonus episodes free from the Tomatometer shackles… It’s everything a Contrarians devotee would want!
- Our YouTube page (youtube.com/@contrarianprime) is live! Get some visual Contrarians delight with our Contrarians Warm-Ups (youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDVkVTb56Rey9AmjdpFToARV8Jmg-p8mK) and other fun videos!
- Contrarians Merch is finally here! Check out our RED BUBBLE MERCH PAGE (redbubble.com/people/thecontrarians/shop) and buy yourself something nice that’s emblazoned with one of our four different designs!
- THE FESTIVE YEARS have been letting us use their music for years now and they are amazing. You can check out their work on Spotify (open.spotify.com/artist/6No9NauLFIFkXOVkRzp5bQ) , on Facebook (facebook.com/TheFestiveYears/) or on their very own website (thefestiveyears.com/) .
- THE LATE NIGHT GRIN isn’t just a show about wrestling: it’s a brand, a lifestyle. And they’re very supportive of our Contrarian endeavors, so we’d like to return the favor. Check out their YouTube Channel! (youtube.com/c/latenightgrin) You might even spot Alex there from time to time.
- Hans Rothgiesser, the man behind our logo, can be reached at @mildemoniospe on Instagram (instagram.com/mildemoniospe/?hl=en) or you can email him at mildemonios@hotmail.com in case you ever need a logo (or comics) produced. And you can listen to him talk about economy on his new TV show, VALOR AGREGADO (https://canalb.pe/watch/valor-agregado/) . Aaaaand you can also check out all the stuff he’s written on his own website (http://www.mildemonios.pe/) . He has a new book: a sort of Economics For Dummies called MARGINAL (arcadiamediatica.com/libro/marginal_44382) . Ask him about it!
Up next, our FIRF journey takes us to Chile, where an infamous dictator is revealed to be a supernatural creature in EL CONDE (youtu.be/YGvX7ma7Xnk?si=-z1gkr6jgn57Wb1m) ! And the episode after that will tackle the unlikely Jim Cameron / Robert Rodriguez team-up, ALITA: BATTLE ANGEL (youtu.be/w7pYhpJaJW8?si=IgHSQ8Mcm__BMiK-) ! In the meantime, let us know what you thought of The Other Side of the Wind: Is it even remotely interested in appealing to a casual viewer? Would it have been better to let the mystery of the final Welles movie go on forever? Will this ever play at midnight screenings anywhere? E-mail us at wearethecontrarians@gmail.com or share your thoughts with us on Threads (threads.net/@contrarianprime) or BlueSky (https://bsky.app/profile/contrarianprime.bsky.social) !
