Uploaded March 2022 | Updated September 2026, 1 hour ago
What led to the death of 3 individuals seeking to better their life and looking for enlightenment at a James Arthur Ray 5-day event?
Ray was made famous by the movie The Secret and being featured several times on the Oprah Winfrey show.
Together with Kirby Brown’s mother Ginny, a licensed clinical social worker and her sister Jean, we discuss the perfect storm that led to that tragedy, their mission to stop it from ever happening to anyone else and how self-help can be done safely.
𝗪𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫:
+ How strong minded people can fall victim to the self-help industry.
+ Tools and dirty tactics used by the self-help industry.
+ What may have contributed to James Ray’s situation.
+ How to not collapse after grief.
+ The legal system is not yet equipped to advocate for the families of [Self-help gone wrong] victims.
+ How to find self-help organisations that have pledged to do no harm and signed [The Promise].
+ What has changed for them in how they perceive life after Kirby’s passing.
*Content note: this episode contains sensitive content, discretion is advised*
You can find Seek Safely at: seeksafely.org
The list of red flags: seeksafely.org/consumers
The book seeksafely.org/this-sweet-life-book
Social @seeksafely
If you have any questions or thoughts from this or any other episodes, I want to hear from you. You can message me directly here: angie-s.com/contact
Become a podcaster: www.learnpodcasting.online
If you want to support the show further: angie-s.com/donations
Mentioned in this episode: Guru: The Dark Side of Enlightenment podcast
If you have been affected and need to talk to someone below are some helplines:
UK: mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/crisis-services/helplines-listening-services
Europe: mhe-sme.org/library/helplines
USA:
American Foundation of Suicide Prevention
Suicide and Depression Awareness for Student
NAMI Resources on Suicide Prevention
NAMI Resources on Suicide Risk
National Suicide Prevention Hotline - 1-800-273- 8255
Crisis Textline - Text HOME to 741741
What led to the death of 3 individuals seeking to better their life and looking for enlightenment at a James Arthur Ray 5-day event?
Ray was made famous by the movie The Secret and being featured several times on the Oprah Winfrey show.
Together with Kirby Brown’s mother Ginny, a licensed clinical social worker and her sister Jean, we discuss the perfect storm that led to that tragedy, their mission to stop it from ever happening to anyone else and how self-help can be done safely.
𝗪𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫:
+ How strong minded people can fall victim to the self-help industry.
+ Tools and dirty tactics used by the self-help industry.
+ What may have contributed to James Ray’s situation.
+ How to not collapse after grief.
+ The legal system is not yet equipped to advocate for the families of [Self-help gone wrong] victims.
+ How to find self-help organisations that have pledged to do no harm and signed [The Promise].
+ What has changed for them in how they perceive life after Kirby’s passing.
*Content note: this episode contains sensitive content, discretion is advised*
You can find Seek Safely at: seeksafely.org
The list of red flags: seeksafely.org/consumers
The book seeksafely.org/this-sweet-life-book
Social @seeksafely
If you have any questions or thoughts from this or any other episodes, I want to hear from you. You can message me directly here: angie-s.com/contact
Become a podcaster: www.learnpodcasting.online
If you want to support the show further: angie-s.com/donations
Mentioned in this episode: Guru: The Dark Side of Enlightenment podcast
If you have been affected and need to talk to someone below are some helplines:
UK: mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/crisis-services/helplines-listening-services
Europe: mhe-sme.org/library/helplines
USA:
American Foundation of Suicide Prevention
Suicide and Depression Awareness for Student
NAMI Resources on Suicide Prevention
NAMI Resources on Suicide Risk
National Suicide Prevention Hotline - 1-800-273- 8255
Crisis Textline - Text HOME to 741741
