Uploaded March 2021 | Updated September 2026, 16 minutes ago
On the cusp of the pandemic, Jordan - Founder of Listen Lucy, had just invested for her business to scale from speaking engagements into a speaking agency but 2020 decided otherwise and with events coming to a halt, her business collapsed.
Today we talk about how we both sank on the 2020 boat and what helped us bounce back. Both with very different surroundings and support systems.
*Content note: this episode discusses anxiety and suicide prevention, discretion is advised*
We go over:
• How to deal with a crisis.
• When your livelihood is taken away from you, how to cope so you can move on to your next chapter?
• In order to be the best parent for your kids, you sometimes need to prioritise yourself.
• To quote Jordan: “That’s the thing with mental illness. As your life changes, so does the illness, and you have to adapt.” If a coping mechanism doesn't work anymore, drop it and replace it with something else, don’t stunt your process.
• When you’re feeling depressed or anxious, how do we convey how we’re feeling without freaking people out or making them feel powerless?
• When mental health issues are part of who we are, we shouldn’t apologise for that.
• We all have mental health.
• When pulling away from your partner because you’re ashamed of showing them your mental health, that can be a breach of trust.
• Why spreading the message and exposing herself like this, is so important for Jordan.
• The 5 warning signs your friend may not be doing well and needs you to check in [WHAP which stands for Withdrawal - Hopelessness - Agitation - Poor self care &/or Personality change].
• The Upper limit problem.
Find Jordan: www.ListenLucy.org
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For mental health crisis helplines:
UK:
mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/crisis-services/helplines-listening-services/
Europe:
mhe-sme.org/library/helplines/
USA:
National Suicide Prevention Hotline - 1-800-273- 8255
Crisis Textline - Text HOME to 741741
Book referenced: The Big Leap
*Recorded in November 2020
On the cusp of the pandemic, Jordan - Founder of Listen Lucy, had just invested for her business to scale from speaking engagements into a speaking agency but 2020 decided otherwise and with events coming to a halt, her business collapsed.
Today we talk about how we both sank on the 2020 boat and what helped us bounce back. Both with very different surroundings and support systems.
*Content note: this episode discusses anxiety and suicide prevention, discretion is advised*
We go over:
• How to deal with a crisis.
• When your livelihood is taken away from you, how to cope so you can move on to your next chapter?
• In order to be the best parent for your kids, you sometimes need to prioritise yourself.
• To quote Jordan: “That’s the thing with mental illness. As your life changes, so does the illness, and you have to adapt.” If a coping mechanism doesn't work anymore, drop it and replace it with something else, don’t stunt your process.
• When you’re feeling depressed or anxious, how do we convey how we’re feeling without freaking people out or making them feel powerless?
• When mental health issues are part of who we are, we shouldn’t apologise for that.
• We all have mental health.
• When pulling away from your partner because you’re ashamed of showing them your mental health, that can be a breach of trust.
• Why spreading the message and exposing herself like this, is so important for Jordan.
• The 5 warning signs your friend may not be doing well and needs you to check in [WHAP which stands for Withdrawal - Hopelessness - Agitation - Poor self care &/or Personality change].
• The Upper limit problem.
Find Jordan: www.ListenLucy.org
✨ Don’t be a stranger:
• 🎙️ Thinking about starting your own podcast? My membership at (https://getyourpodcastdone.com) getyourpodcastdone.com (http://getyourpodcastdone.com) will help you actually do the thing - without the overwhelm.
• 📬 Want the good stuff I don’t share anywhere else? Hop on my email list (forms.angie-s.com/sign-up)
• ❤️ If this episode made you think, laugh, or roll your eyes (in a good way), you can support the show here (https://to4ts.captivate.fm/support) . It helps keep the mics on.
• The podcast host I swear by: Captivate (https://www.captivate.fm/signup?ref=angiesorensen)
• 💌 Old school and want to just say hi? Contact me here (angie-s.com/contact)
*Affiliate link alert: I get a tiny kickback if you sign up. Think of it as buying me a fancy coffee. ☕️
For mental health crisis helplines:
UK:
mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/crisis-services/helplines-listening-services/
Europe:
mhe-sme.org/library/helplines/
USA:
National Suicide Prevention Hotline - 1-800-273- 8255
Crisis Textline - Text HOME to 741741
Book referenced: The Big Leap
*Recorded in November 2020
