Q-Acoustics 3020i Triangle BRO3 ELAC DBR62 Sound Artist LS3/5a Harbeth P3ESR Grado SR60The KEF R3 META Review! A Complete BOMBSHELL!Zero Fidelity2023-08-10 | Every once in awhile a speaker comes along that disrupts the audio market. Meet the R3 Meta.
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Speaker Price as of August 10th, 2023: $2,199 / Pair. USD
Snapshot Recommendation: For this price class, the R3 Meta is as good as it gets for audiophiles who want a refined, detailed listening experience from a speaker that manages to still sound full and easy on the ears.
19:45 Summary ConclusionCSS Audio TYPHON Review | Full-Range, Compact Tower SpeakersZero Fidelity2023-05-13 | Is it worth buying? Here's all you need to know to make up your mind.
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FTC: This independent review is free of sponsorships, affiliate links, financial compensation, and product compensation. A package of Oreos not withstanding.
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0:00 We need to TALK! 0:31 Features, Design, Pricing Info 2:38 The TRUTH about CSS/Jay 3:45 PERFORMANCE SUMMARY! 5:42 Treble, Midrange, Bass, Etc.. 8:13 Some Problems... 10:03 Compared: Pearl Sibelius! 11:05 Compared: Klipsch Forte IV! 12:01 My Final Thoughts 13:01 SETUP TIPS! 14:48 EQUIPMENT MATCHING!
Audiolab 6000a ($1,200 USD) The Good: Excellent synergy. A clean, detailed, and controlled Sound. The Bad: Not the last word in midrange heft. The Verdict: An exceptional match for the price. Recommended!
Willsenton R8 ($1,450 USD) The Good: A powerful, detailed, layered sound. The Bad: A bit forward and dry in the treble / upper midrange. The Verdict: A decent match, but the Audiolab is a better fit for less $$.
Willsenton r300i ($1500 USD) The Good: A warm, saturated midrange. The Bad: Everything else. The Verdict: No and no. Avoid.
Hegel H120 ($3,000 USD) The Good: Neutral midrange with good bass control for the money. The Bad: Treble sounds a bit rough with this combo. The Verdict: A difficult match to recommend.
The Galion TS120 SE ($4500 USD) The Good: A vivid sound with good imaging and strong bass. The Bad: Not exactly a smooth/refined sounding combo. The Verdict: A solid match, especially if you like big bass.
Hegel H390 ($6000 USD) The Good: A balanced, warm, and unoffensive sound. The Bad: Could use more liveliness and energy. The Verdict: A good match if you want a balanced, laid-back sound.
Accuphase E-280 ($6,000 USD? Not sure) The Good: A strong, warm, balanced sound with good tone. The Bad: Not the *last* word in treble spaciousness and refinement The Verdict: An absolutely fantastic match! HIGHLY Recommended!
Norma Audio REVO 140 ($6,000 USD) The Good: A very clear, spacious, controlled, and revealing combo. The Bad: Perhaps a little too much upper midrange energy The Verdict: A solid match, but is a bit of an acquired taste.
Luxman L-507Z ($9000 USD) The Good: Extraordinarily clear sound with STRONG yet controlled bass. The Bad: The treble can get a little spicy with this combo. The Verdict: A good match, but the value is questionable.
Octave Audio V70 Class-A. ($10,000 USD) The Good: Very resolving, clean, layered, and balanced sounding combo. The Bad: Could use a touch more weight in the midrange. The Verdict: A fantastic match, but the value is questionable.The Sound of Music. Pearl Acoustics SIBELIUS Review!Zero Fidelity2023-04-20 | A single driver speaker that's capable of being an audiophiles life-long music making partner.
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0:00 I'm Tired of Bookshelf Speakers 0:13 Why Single Driver Speakers? 1:37 The Design 2:45 What you're REALLY PAYING For! 4:55 The Sound (All you need to know) 11:54 Problems 13:57 Compared to KLIPSCH FORTE IV 15:39 Compared to DYNAUDIO HERITAGE SPECIAL 17:01 Final Thoughts 18:50 IMPORTANT SETUP ADVICE 20:50 EQUIPMENT PAIRING ADVICE 22:38 STANDS. DO YOU NEED THEM?
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PEARL SIBELIUS / AMP PAIRING SUMMARY
Willsenton R8 ($1450 USD)
The Good: Powerful, clean, balanced sound with good imaging The Bad: A bit dry in the upper midrange. Verdict: A good match of you're on a strict electronics budget.
Willsenton R300i ($1500 USD)
The Good: A warm, relaxing, tonally rich sounding combination The Bad: Not very dynamic, energetic, or powerful sounding. Overall: Only a good match in small rooms and/or for people who like a very warm sound.
Hegel H120 ($3200 USD)
The Good: Extremely balanced and well-rounded sounding combination. Doesn't do much wrong. The Bad: Some people may prefer a more 'vivid' sound. Overall: Exceptional match for something in this price range. Highly Recommended!
Galion TS120 ($4500 USD)
The Good: Lively, detailed, strong, tonally rich sounding presentation. The Bad: Not the last word in speed and refinement. Overall: A Great match, especially if you like the sound of tube amps.
Luxman 550 MK ($6500 USD)
The Good: Detailed, Clean, Controlled, Highly Resolving and Full Sounding presentation. The Bad: Can sound rather forward in the upper midrange. Not for somebody who likes warmth. Overall: A very solid match if you like a clean, slightly forward, and controlled sound.
Accuphase E280 ($6500 USD???). Price has changed
The Good: Balanced, clean, slightly warm, tonally pleasant combination. The Bad: Not for people who prefer a lean and quick sound. Overall: A good match all-around match, especially if you like a full sounding midrange.
Hegel H390 ($6500 USD)
The Good: Excellent bass control with a slightly warm sound. The Bad: Midrange sounds almost broken/unnatural. Not sure why. Overall: Based on what I heard, I cannot recommend this match to most people.
Octave Audio V70 Class A ($10,000 USD)
The Good: Extremely clean, dynamic, and layered sound. Fantastic Resolution. The Bad: The price. Overall: Highly Recommended if you have the money!
FTC: This review is free of affiliate links, monetary compensation, and product compensation.The JBL Classic L52 Review | The Old School SoundZero Fidelity2023-02-23 | These speakers make listening to music FUN!
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----------------------------------------------------------------------Audiophiles! DO THIS before spending MORE MONEY!Zero Fidelity2022-11-27 | Not completely satisfied with the sound of your stereo system? Watch this before dumping tons of time and cash into the next component. The steps in this video may keep the process simple and less expensive.Underrated, AFFORDABLE Audiophile Speakers! Klipsch R50M ReviewZero Fidelity2022-09-24 | Fun, affordable little bookshelf speakers!
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Review Index:
0:00 Intro 1:09 Why Horns? 4:58 Are they right for YOU? A Short Summary 7:33 The Sound! A Detailed Summary 12:08 Some Problems... 13:56 Versus the KEF Q150! 18:44 Equipment Pairing Advice 21:06 Room Setup Advice 22:30 My Final Thoughts 24:31 More Important Than HiFi!
Note: All the opinions expressed in this video are my own and are without influence.🛑 Brilliant Sound BUT...there are problems. Aiyima T9 Integrated Amp Overview/ReviewZero Fidelity2022-06-10 | I didn't want to make this video.
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Patreon: patreon.com/ZeroFidelityHiFi BDI Elements Cabinet (as seen in the video): bit.ly/38ozr117 IMPORTANT lessons I learned in my 20 Year Audiophile Journey.Zero Fidelity2022-06-06 | Sharing some key things that I learned in my 20 years as an audiophile.
0:00 IMPORTANT CONTEXT 1:13 Don't be STUPID like me! 2:33 Bad sound? IT COULD BE YOU 5:01 Money and Hi-Fi. REAL TALK! 7:05 DONT BE FOOLED by Negative Reviews! 8:58 You're not as GOOD as you THINK you are! 10:43 ASK Instead of being an A-- 12:39 Know when to call it a Day!All HYPE or JUST RIGHT? The Audiolab 6000a Integrated Amplifier Review!Zero Fidelity2022-04-01 | Some products live up to the hype. Others don't. This is my take on one of the most popular audiophile solutions around the $1000 price point.
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Buchardt Audio S400 MK2 KEF LS50 Meta Harbeth P3ESR Pearl Audio Sibelius Polk Audio R700 Klipsch Forte IV Triangle Genese Trio AMR CD-777 SE HEED Audio ABACUSStill THE $299 Speaker to buy?! KEF Q150 Bookshelf Loudspeaker Review!Zero Fidelity2022-03-20 | Some speakers stand the test of time. Do these? Lets talk...
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Patreon: patreon.com/ZeroFidelityHiFi BDI Elements Cabinet (Black) as seen in the video: bit.ly/38ozr11TOP 3 AUDIOPHILE PRODUCTS! My Favorite Speakers & Amps that I Reviewed (2021)Zero Fidelity2022-01-17 | Most of the stereo gear I reviewed last year was pretty good. Yet some components stood out above the rest in terms of value and performance. Here are my top 3 picks from 2021! :
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The Affiliate Link has nada to do with what's said in the video.An Audiophile Endgame. The Dynaudio Confidence 20 Review!Zero Fidelity2021-10-20 | Some say this is one of the best 2-way monitors that money can buy. Do I agree? Well....
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0:00 The Design 2:15 Performance (Short Summary) 4:31 Performance (Detailed Summary) 9:47 Room Setup 11:48 Equipment Matching 16:07 Caveats 19:00 Final ThoughtsDo you REALLY need anything more? ACCUPHASE E-280 Integrated Amplifier Review!Zero Fidelity2021-10-14 | Though not cheap, the e280 is the best value that I've heard from Accuphase! Japanese Luxury Hi-Fi
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0:00 Intro 0:43 Product Overview (General Specs and Features) 3:00 Under the Hood 3:52 Short Performance Summary 4:47 Detailed Performance Summary 8:29 Speaker Pairing 9:15 Comparison to Luxman 550 11:28 Comparison to Accuphase 480 13:43 Some Problems 15:26 My Own ThoughtsA Musicphile solution that MOST people can AFFORD! Yamaha R-S202 Stereo Receiver Review!Zero Fidelity2021-10-06 | A great bang for the buck that just about everyone can afford!
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0:00 Intro 0:14 Design & Features 3:26 Speaker Matching 4:47 The Sound (Short Summary) 5:56 The Sound (Detailed Summary) 8:34 A Sony Comparison 10:26 Problems 11:48 Headphones! 13:10 My Final ThoughtsThe Buchardt Audio S400 MK2 | Class Leading Performance! | A ReviewZero Fidelity2021-09-26 | An across the board improvement over the already fantastic S400!
----------------------- 0:00 Intro 0:35 Design, Features, & Differences 4:05 Short Performance Summary 7:33 Versus the Original S400 12:55 Some Problems 15:07 In-Room Setup Advice 17:29 Equipment Matching Advice 18:58 Final Thoughts 21:47 BONUS! Versus KEF LS50 Meta/R3 25:59 BONUS! Versus KLH Model 5Calling out Audiophile BS!Zero Fidelity2021-09-17 | Inspired by Cheap Audio Man's Rant: youtube.com/watch?v=-niPXmlFSwU
To see content that never makes it to this channel, go here: patreon.com/ZeroFidelityHiFiRotel 1572 MK2 Review | Bring me Clarity!Zero Fidelity2021-09-12 | Am I clear enough for you? For the audiophile who values features, power, and clarity from a single chassis.
0:00 Intro 0:06 Product Info and Features 4:42 Performance (Short Summary) 6:10 Detailed Performance Summary 10:08 A Comparison 13:43 ConclusionJamo S809 Review! | Affordable Home Audio LoudspeakersZero Fidelity2021-07-30 | The good news is that they look good and sound clear. The bad news? Well, lets talk...
0:00 SHORT AF INTRO 0:07 ABOUT 3:07 The Sound (NORMY Summary) 6:26 The Sound (AUDIOPHILE Summary) 9:37 A Comparison 12:54 Final ThoughtsBeautiful Sound! Unison Research UNICO PRIMO! A Tube/Solid State Integrated Amplifier. A ReviewZero Fidelity2021-07-22 | This Italian stallion is one of the most beloved integrated amps that I know of. Tube warmth meets Solid-State Power. What more can an audiophile want?
0:00 Intro 0:24 About / Front 2:11 The Booty 3:06 Under The Hood 4:52 Sound! The Short Summary 6:11 Sound! The Detailed Summary 10:34 Caveats 12:18 Comparison Uno! 16:00 Comparison Dos! 18:25 The Wrap 19:32 Tube Rolling! Gold Lion
0:00 Intro 0:37 About the Speakers 3:53 The Sound - A Short Summary 5:43 The Sound - A Detailed Summary 10:14 Some Problems 11:14 A Comparison! 14:59 Setup Tips and Equipment Matching 18:33 My Final Thoughts
0:00 Intro 0:24 Backround + A Funny Story 3:02 About the Pre-Amplifier 7:51 About the Stereo Amplifier 11:10 Classe Booty 12:41 The Sound - A Short Summary 13:49 The Sound - The Long Version 19:32 Some Problems 21:59 A Comparison / Is it worth it? 27:11 My Personal Thoughts
Classe Audio Delta Webpage: classeaudio.comBuying Audiophile Gear in 2021. What YOU NEED to KNOW!Zero Fidelity2021-05-23 | Buying stereo gear supposed to be FUN! Be that as it may, there are times when the process can feel confusing and overwhelming. This video is here to help simplify the process of buying a stereo system while keeping your headed grounded.
Intro: 0:00 Tips for buying NEW gear: 1:12 Tips for buying USED gear: 4:57 A simple way to Research gear: 8:13 Patience, Grasshoppers!: 10:31 Measurements! Do they matter or nah?: 12:30 Leverage your Expectations!: 15:40
*Special Thanks goes out to Nemo Propoganda for donating some lights to the channel: youtube.com/channel/UCUWrebNiPZ6YYlsbvR-I6egA Small Subwoofer Comparison! SVS SB1000 Pro vs 3000 Micro.Zero Fidelity2021-05-11 | Which SVS is BEST for you? Let's talk...
Intro Music: Cushy - Fire Drill
0:00 Intro 2:46 Micro 3000 vs SB1000Pro 5:14 Performance of both Subs 9:43 My Subject Thoughts 13:13 Bonus! Why use 2 Subs instead of1?
SVS SB1000 Pro upgrades over the 1000 include the following: - Can be used with the SVS App - Now wirelessly capable - Upgraded motor structure, suspension, and surround on the 12" woofer. - Discreet Mosfet switching for Class-D power Amp. - Mild power upgrade from 300w to 325w.
0:00 Intro 0:09 Product Design and Purpose 2:45 Black and White colors 3:15 The Sound (Short Summary) 4:55 The Sound (Detailed Summary) 11:54 Setup Tips (erm.. this ones short) 13:27 Comparisons! 17:17 My Biased Opinion 21:09 BONUS! Dual Subs and Desktop Use!
Intro Music By: Arc De Soleil - Track & Field渋い For the Musicphile. KLH Model 5 Loudspeaker Review!Zero Fidelity2021-04-02 | Henry Kloss, Malcolm Low, and Josef Hofmann would be proud.
0:00 Intro 0:27 Product Design and Features 4:22 The Attenuation Switch 5:49 The Sound (Short Summary) 8:07 The Sound (Detailed Summary) 14:53 The Problems 17:21 Setup and Equipment Recommendations 21:18 My Biased Opinion 26:14 (Bonus!) Comparison Talk
- Iotavx SA3 | PA3 - Marantz Model 30 - Yamaha AS1200 - Parasound HALO HINT 6 - Luxman L550 AXII - Accuphase E480 - Parasound HALO Hint 6 - Tsakiridis AeolosReview! The Polk Audio R500 : High Value Loudspeakers!Zero Fidelity2021-03-23 | The Polk R500's are a SERIOUS value. But are they right for you? Let's talk...
FYI: Everything but the Tsakiridis sounded good with the Polk R500's.Review! The Klipsch Forte IV | Ready to ROCK!Zero Fidelity2021-03-01 | Not many speakers this size can do what the new Forte IV's can do.
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Digital:
AMR CD-777 SE. HEED Audio Elixir.
Components:
Iotavx SA3 Vista Audio Spark II Parasound HALO HINT 6 Yamaha AS-1200 Marantz Model 30 Musical Fidelity M6si Luxman L550 AX-II Accuphase E-480 Parasound JC2BP Parasound JC5 Tsakiridis AeolosThe Most Popular Speaker in its class! A Review of the KEF LS50 MetaZero Fidelity2021-02-15 | The compact speaker which all others are judged against!
--------------------- Equipment used in this Evaluation includes the following:
Digital Sources:
AMR CD-777 Heed Audio ELIXIR
Integrated Amplifiers:
Vista Audio Spark 2 Iotavx SA3 Tsakiridis Aeolos Marantz Model 30 Yamaha AS1200 Musical Fidelity M6si Parasound HALO Hint6 Luxman AX550 MKII Accuphase E480Review! Musical Fidelity M2si | Your Entry into HIGH-END sound!Zero Fidelity2021-01-21 | Is it just a pretty face? Or does the M2si bring THE GOODS when it comes to performance? Let's talk...
My review of the higher end, M6si by Musical Fidelity: youtube.com/watch?v=AoEPNmIeNOQ&t=49s3 Awesome Retro Integrated Amps! Featuring the Yamaha AS1200. Accuphase E480. Luxman 550 AXII.Zero Fidelity2021-01-14 | All three are different. All three are fantastic. It's time to discuss what they bring to the table in terms of performance.
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Dynaudio Confidence 20 Klipsch Cornwall IV Falcon Acoustics LS3/5a Gold Badge Harbeth P3ESR Gershman Audio Avant Garde Falcon Acoustics 'MoFi' Edition LS3/5a Triangle Genese TrioLS3/5a Comparison! Harbeth P3ER. Falcon Acoustics Gold & Silver Badge. Sound Artist.Zero Fidelity2020-12-21 | A speaker design from the 70's that STILL has a strong following! In todays video, I explore four LS3/5a-type speakers and discuss how they all compare and contrast to one another.
My personal Tier List (For a Traditional 2-channel system)
1. Falcon Gold Badge 2. Harbeth P3ESR 3. Falcon MoFi Edition 4. Sound Artist LS3/5aMy FAVORITE Affordable(ish) Hi-Fi System! A speaker/Amp Recommendation for 2020.Zero Fidelity2020-12-04 | There are tons of great products out there. Many worth recommending. But this system right here? Its performance and flexibility is something that should have a fairly broad appeal. Especially to those who are looking to build their first, high-quality stereo system!
Raw, Behind the Scenes impressions and information can be seen here: patreon.com/ZeroFidelityHiFiReview! Falcon Acoustics LS3/5a Silver Badge | MoFi Edition! Least expensive LS3/5a in the world!Zero Fidelity2020-11-10 | Intro Music: Nicky Dowling - 'Harlem Spills'
Review sample was provided by the North American distributor for Musical Fidelity. The review itself was arranged by, but not sponsored by, Adorama Camera.THIS.. is why I DONT STREAM music / Review many DACS.Zero Fidelity2020-10-09 | The raw, unfiltered answer.
Link to the AMR CD-777 SE: amr-audio.co.uk/products/cd-777-seSYSTEM REVIEW! Marantz Model 30 SACD Player & Integrated AmplifierZero Fidelity2020-10-05 | Intro Music: Arc De Soilel - 'Totem Transport' Outro Music: Warmkeys - 'Mayweather'
If you live in the US and would like to inquire about the Aeolos, reach out to the distributor at: frankgazzo@antalaudio.comReview! Luxman L550 AXII Integrated Amplifier!Zero Fidelity2020-09-14 | Beautiful looks. Beautiful sound.
Intro music by: Sam Eber - 'When All Else Fades' Outro music by: Dusty Decks - 'When The Noise Settles'
Yamaha AS-1200 Product Page: usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/hifi_components/a-s1200/index.htmlIs THIS the future of Hi-Fi? Buchardt Audio A500 Listening Impressions.Zero Fidelity2020-08-25 | The A500 is a system for the audiophile who is fed up with equipment matching, acoustic treatments, speaker positioning, and now wants a solution that'll just freakin' work. A product that will accommodate the users lifestyle, and not the other way around.
Beginning early 2019, I served as a consultant for Buchardt Audio on matters relating to business, media, prototype testing, and logistics. I charged for the aforementioned services as I'm not going to provide my time and knowledge for free. In drawing up the terms, I made it clear that I would *not* assist Buchardt Audio with the sale, promotion, or support of product. I also made it clear that I would continue to provide unbiased advice to viewers, even if that meant recommending a competitors product over a Buchardt Audio solution.. By the end of Q4 in 2019, Buchardt Audio was no longer in need of my advice and our partnership was amicably terminated.
The video that you're watching now has nothing to do with the aforementioned relationship. This is a simple, enthusiasts video containing my genuine impressions of the A500. A response to the overwhelming demand by my audience to talk about it.
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INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO SETUP THE A500's WITH HUB/REMOTE!
* After you get everything connected, Power on everything.
* Press and hold the parring button on the speakers, led flashes. To that for both speakers.
* Press ones on the parring bottom on the hub, then you should see the flash stop on the speakers.
* Make sure the speakers are set for left and right correctly. This is controlled back on the speakers, very simple.
* Then connect the remote to the hub by pressing and holding the parring bottom on the hub, until it flash (5sek) then press a button on the remote.
That's it.
The indicator for the battery to go in the remote is a bit hard to see (will change for the next production)
For further assistance, reach out to Buchardt Audio @ info@buchardtaudio.comA High-Value Audiophile Desktop System!Zero Fidelity2020-08-18 | Who doesn't like great sound and a good value? This is an old school solution that provides excellent stereo performance, even in 2020!
Topping E30 youtube.com/watch?v=eLJlotiXM_M&t=1sReview! The Wharfedale Evo 4.2 Bookshelf Loudspeaker.Zero Fidelity2020-08-11 | Setting a new standard in built quality with impressive performance to match!
For more info and tech questions about the Emotiva S8 Flex, click here: emotiva.com/products/airmotiv-s8Review! Sound Artist LS3/5a Bookshelf Speakers.Zero Fidelity2020-08-03 | A fantastic speaker for desktop and bedroom listeners! Intro music by: Jonah Aardekker - 'Theme for Juno'.
Brief, summarized history of the LS 3/5a. (Yes, this Wiki page is actually good): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LS3/5AAfter the Hype! Living with the ELAC Debut Reference (DBR 62) Loudspeakers.Zero Fidelity2020-07-30 | I've lived with the DBR 62's for awhile now. This is my true take on these well-regarded bookshelf loudspeakers.
My comparison between the Triangle BRO3, Elac DBR62, and Klipsch RP600M: youtube.com/watch?v=apij3Y0A1RQ&t=52sVista Audio Spark II Review! Beautiful sound from a little box!Zero Fidelity2020-07-25 | A quality over quantity proposition.
Intro music by: Roots and Recognition - "Never Thought"